(October 1, 2017 at 2:52 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(October 1, 2017 at 2:42 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: At least I'm the type of person who finds predictability comforting.  😏

I didn't want to shock you with something that was out of character for me.

You shock nobody, piss us off yes, shock, no. You tossing 45's salad is not surprising to us.

(October 1, 2017 at 5:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(October 1, 2017 at 2:52 pm)A Theist Wrote: I didn't want to shock you with something that was out of character for me.

You shock nobody, piss us off yes, shock, no. You tossing 45's salad is not surprising to us.

My response was to LadyForCamus, not you. But I think Thump has a couple of comments that you can respond to on the previous page.

Quote:You can take what you know from your google education and leftwing indoctrination about Southern culture and ancestory and shove it all up your narrow minded snowflake ass.

And you can take ignorant Alt right blog education and right wing indoctrination about Southern culture and ancestory and shove it up your troglodyte slave owner venerating ass .

Quote:Where did I say that I didn't take part in the shit flinging with the rest of you, you libtard snowflake.

Not we rightly pointed out your an ignorant fuckwit . All you did was fling shit and  throw around red herring you pin headed Dumpftard . 

Quote:I didn't want to shock you with something that was out of character for me

Actually it's because you have no real character you a piano with only one key . Angry Conservative douche .

All these exchanges filled with hate are exactly what is wrong with the world. Too much hate and not enough compassion and understanding for other people. I get it - religion and politics are two subjects that people can get rather heated about. But for real - how about leaving out half the hate and see if that makes a difference? Each side's opinions are important to them - whether they are right or wrong. It's time we started saying "You know what - I know you're not going to be swayed by anything I say, so how about we just agree to disagree and move on?", instead of lowering ourselves to the level of third graders with some of these insults. My own kids know better.

Honestly - we are all a bunch of internet strangers so is anything that is said on this thread going to matter five minutes, five hours, five days, five weeks, five months or five years from now?

If the answer to any of that is no - then how about toning down the hostility some and engaging in a debate like grown ups? Seriously we do have several teens on these boards and is this level of hatred really the sort of thing you all want to impress upon them?

I seriously hope not. Two of the teens on this board happen to be my sons and when they come to me and start questioning why there is so much hate between a bunch of people that will most likely never see each other face to face, I have to work hard to give them honest answers.

(October 1, 2017 at 8:48 pm)Joods Wrote: All these exchanges filled with hate are exactly what is wrong with the world. Too much hate and not enough compassion and understanding for other people. I get it - religion and politics are two subjects that people can get rather heated about. But for real -  how about leaving out half the hate and see if that makes a difference? Each side's opinions are important to them - whether they are right or wrong. It's time we started saying "You know what - I know you're not going to be swayed by anything I say, so how about we just agree to disagree and move on?", instead of lowering ourselves to the level of third graders with some of these insults. My own kids know better.

Honestly - we are all a bunch of internet strangers so is anything that is said on this thread going to matter five minutes, five hours, five days, five weeks, five months or five years from now?

If the answer to any of that is no - then how about toning down the hostility some and engaging in a debate like grown ups? Seriously we do have several teens on these boards and is this level of hatred really the sort of thing you all want to impress upon them?

I seriously hope not. Two of the teens on this board happen to be my sons and when they come to me and start questioning why there is so much hate between a bunch of people that will most likely never see each other face to face, I have to work hard to give them honest answers.

Hate of bigotry is not the same as the hate of a bigot.

No, I will not apologize for standing up to an asshole politician whom wants to take us back to Jim Crow, McCarthyism and scapegoats like Goebbels. Not my baggage that 45's supporters cannot see how dangerous his political rhetoric is. We have seen where political vilification has gone in history, and it never ends well.

If 45s supporters want civil conversation, they need to start by telling him to shut the fuck up. 

Spent 5 years vilifying the black guy implying Hawaii was not a state.
45 started his campaign by calling Mexicans rapists.
Called for Muslim bans.
Nominated an anti LGBT homophobic asshole bigot for VP
Attacked the service of John McCain, and even now that he is dying of brain cancer, still insults him because he didn't vote to fuck over citizens on health care.
Threatened political rivals
Shit on 17 intel agencies 
Attacked sitting judges with no record of impropriety
Vilifies journalists the watchdog that keeps the west free.
Calls black NFL players  "Sons of bitches".

I'd prefer civility from our politicians, but it requires the head diplomat which is what a president is, to do that, and right now, he is not doing that. 45 is treating the office like his own personal episode of Jerry Springer.

So my attitude is if you support 45, your problem is him, not me. I will not apologize for standing up to a political bully.

Right. Because "shut the fuck up" always begets civil conversation.

(October 1, 2017 at 10:14 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Right. Because "shut the fuck up" always begets civil conversation.

Imagine if Germans had said, "SHUT THE FUCK UP' When Hitler first started making noise. 6 million Jews would still be alive.

No sorry, we are not talking about a private citizen here. We are talking about a politician.

45's supporters need to tell him to shut the fuck up. If they cant then why should I be polite to those whom support a selfish, dangerous demagogue? 

45 sets the tone, he is not setting the tone, 45 is shitting all over our discourse and pandering to bigots.

If you support an asshole bully whom uses his office to vilify and divide, then sorry, to me you are complicate.

He just called black NFL players "Sons of bitches"

He just attacked the Mayor of San Juan Puerto Rico....... And go read the list of attacks he has made over the past 5 years.

45 does not care about civility, he cares about adulation and attention and power.

Again, I am not going to be polite about this, because we cannot afford that with a dangerous sicko in office.

Everyone here knows what 45 is doing. However - he is not on these forums so your anger is seriously misplaced. Honestly, is your anger actually solving any issues or is it just making you feel better to hate someone?

(October 1, 2017 at 11:16 pm)Joods Wrote: Everyone here knows what 45 is doing. However - he is not on these forums so your anger is seriously misplaced. Honestly, is your anger actually solving any issues or is it just making you feel better to hate someone?

His supporters are. 

If you want to stick up for those whom support a bully, sorry, I wont. 

Again, hate of intolerance is not the same as being intolerant.


Yes, I hate bullies. No, do not expect me to be polite to bullies or those whom support bullies.

The problem is not me. The problem is 45, so if others want civility then it is up to them to tell him to shut the fuck up.

I started it. Brian isn't solely to blame.