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Name one objectively bad person
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  (October 11, 2017 at 2:09 pm)Losty Wrote: I'd say bad/good cannot be objective. These are always subjective IMO So, presumably someone who overall helps others and doesn't hurt other people (different or same from the first group) cannot possibly be considered objectively good?
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![[Image: harmlesskitchen.png]](https://i.postimg.cc/yxR97P23/harmlesskitchen.png) I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.  (October 12, 2017 at 10:38 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:(October 11, 2017 at 2:09 pm)Losty Wrote: I'd say bad/good cannot be objective. These are always subjective IMO No, of course not. There are plenty of people who believe it takes going above and beyond that to be good. Some people think humans are incapable of being good. Who are you to say they're wrong? It's impossible to define good without some people disagreeing with your definition. RE: Name one objectively bad person
October 12, 2017 at 11:51 pm
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Conceivably, armed with the relevant facts of all moral decisions throughout a persons entire life a thouroghly accurate and objective assessment could be made.
In contrast, to say that these things are always subjective is to say that there is no relevant fact of any moral matter, but it presents no coherent or meaningful barrier to an objective assessment by whatever metrics one chooses. Moral disagreement does not demonstrate moral subjectivity. Moral objectivity does not require moral absolutism.
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 (October 11, 2017 at 2:07 pm)pool the matey Wrote: Before you answer, can you name one objectively good person? You probably cannot. Whether what you do is good or not is highly subjective. Take killing. We think of killing another human as morally repugnant, normally. But we also arm police officers and soldiers with killing weapons, and (especially with the latter) we laud their skill in using these weapons. And, of course, the god you've recently adopted uses killing as a tool for correction all the time; indeed, he invented dying, according to Genesis. Is all killing wrong? Can it sometimes be right? Can you answer those questions with the objective morality you're obviously pushing here? Your god is a murderer, yet you think of him as good. Do you even know what objective morality means? 
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RE: Name one objectively bad person
October 13, 2017 at 2:20 am
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(October 13, 2017 at 1:34 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Is all killing wrong? Can it sometimes be right? A moral objectivist is free to posit that killing is, in some cases, right...though they aren't required to do so. Only a moral absolutist has to make that choice. (not addressed at me, I know, lol)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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