(October 17, 2017 at 9:28 am)Drich Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 11:04 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: Considering the many (I owe this to vorlon) schisms within christianity due to how one schism interprets scripture as opposed to another schism's interpretation, is it truly any wonder that atheists interpret scripture differently than religious people?

How does the christian logically process schisms within the same religion if god was so precise and clear in his message to the people?

Furthermore, if varied interpretation accomplishes to divide, does that not cancel out religion's claim to unite people?

In short Christ said all of the law has been compressed to two rules/commands under him.

Love your lord god with all of your being. (heart, mind, spirit and strength.)

The second is to love your neighbor as your self.

Now because we are all alittle bit different. our expression of complete and total love to God will be a little bit different. For instance if I was given the gift to sing and write songs then my worship service would depend heavily on that. those who don't have any musical talent would then find themselves waisting time in a worship service like that. Let's say your group has a limited understanding of the freedom and grace of God so they tend to be legalists. meaning people who closly and tightly follow each letter of the law as their means to worship God with all of their being... They would then schism from the music lovers because their works and law worship would not afford them time to to sing songs all day long. Then lets say my wife's group can't sing nor can wrap their minds around legalism. rather she know and enjoys a more complete understand of the freedom we have from the law in Christ, and live and serves in a way that would cause a legalist to stumple in their faith...

Do you get it? the law completed is to love God with all tht we have. not to a specific bar or level of understanding. if we have been given more we are to try and understand and worship more. not all can some are left behind because their capasity will not allow them to proceed any further.

The rule about loving your neighbor as yourself is just a minor rule among many in Leviticus chapter 19.  It's among such things as not shaving around the sides of your head or chopping up your beard or cursing the deaf or turning your daughter into a hooker.

Leviticus 19:18 = https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Leviticus%2019:18

(October 17, 2017 at 4:19 pm)Drich Wrote:

Quote:Why did they not ask him any more questions?

because at this point knew he spoke with the authority of God and to ask anything further would force them to admit their failings and demand change. That is the same reasons the questions stop being asked of me. They hear the authority of God and rather admit a failing that demands change they turn from questions to try and destroy the person speaking or in my case my credibility.

How do you get you enormous head through doorways?  Typical egotistical christian.

(October 17, 2017 at 10:21 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: It's a pity then that your god didn't think to mention anywhere the importance of reading in context.

Why should he have mentioned something that's common knowledge?

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(October 17, 2017 at 11:02 am)drfuzzy Wrote: There is a WHOLE bunch of crap that the all-knowing "god" didn't think to mention.  Too bad the all-powerful creator of the universe is incapable of simple communication.

It's too bad you're not capable of simple logic.

That a person doesn't do something doesn't necessarily mean they're incapable of doing it.

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Why is this so puzzling to you guys?

Sometimes a teacher knows the answers to an issue, but instead of simply giving that knowledge to the students, assigns a research project. There's value in the research itself.

(October 18, 2017 at 9:58 am)alpha male Wrote: Sometimes a teacher knows the answers to an issue, but instead of simply giving that knowledge to the students, assigns a research project. There's value in the research itself.

The difference being that we can see the teacher exists; the same cannot be stated for god.

(October 18, 2017 at 9:58 am)alpha male Wrote:

(October 17, 2017 at 10:21 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: It's a pity then that your god didn't think to mention anywhere the importance of reading in context.

Why should he have mentioned something that's common knowledge?

You don't listen to many sermons, huh?

(October 17, 2017 at 12:20 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(October 17, 2017 at 10:15 am)alpha male Wrote: God doesn't claim to be precise and clear. Just the opposite. Read Proverbs 25:2.

God isn't claiming anything in that proverb.  Someone else is.

(October 18, 2017 at 10:07 am)Lutrinae Wrote:

(October 18, 2017 at 9:58 am)alpha male Wrote: Sometimes a teacher knows the answers to an issue, but instead of simply giving that knowledge to the students, assigns a research project. There's value in the research itself.

The difference being that we can see the teacher exists; the same cannot be stated for god.

Atheist 1: Proposes problem with the Bible
Christian: Addresses proposed problem with Bible
Atheist 2: Derp derp but god don't exist anyhows

Don't you guys ever get tired of this lame tag-team ploy?

(October 18, 2017 at 9:58 am)alpha male Wrote:

(October 17, 2017 at 11:02 am)drfuzzy Wrote: There is a WHOLE bunch of crap that the all-knowing "god" didn't think to mention.  Too bad the all-powerful creator of the universe is incapable of simple communication.

It's too bad you're not capable of simple logic.

That a person doesn't do something doesn't necessarily mean they're incapable of doing it.

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Why is this so puzzling to you guys?

Sometimes a teacher knows the answers to an issue, but instead of simply giving that knowledge to the students, assigns a research project. There's value in the research itself.

I take it you're a believer in the omniscient and omnipotent god even though it makes said god the most morally corrupt god imaginable?

(October 18, 2017 at 11:04 am)c152 Wrote: I take it you're a believer in the omniscient

Yes.

Quote:and omnipotent god

Almighty is a better term.

Quote:even though it makes said god the most morally corrupt god imaginable?

Gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there.

(October 18, 2017 at 11:45 am)alpha male Wrote:

(October 18, 2017 at 11:04 am)c152 Wrote: I take it you're a believer in the omniscient

Yes.

Quote:and omnipotent god

Almighty is a better term.

Quote:even though it makes said god the most morally corrupt god imaginable?

Gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there.

I know that you'd disagree with me there, I will come to explain my reasoning behind my statement. But before that, would you say that your god is the creator of our universe and everything in it?

The difference being that we can see the teacher exists; the same cannot be stated for god.
Atheist 1: Proposes problem with the Bible
Christian: Addresses proposed problem with Bible
Atheist 2: Derp derp but god don't exist anyhows

Don't you guys ever get tired of this lame tag-team ploy?
Don't you theists ever get tired of making up lies to shore up your wholly babble and your imaginary friend?   The answers to problems with the Bible are all apologetics, never anything provable, never anything that doesn't fall under "oh, you're not reading it right".