Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: November 21, 2024, 6:01 pm
Atheist Forums › Science › General Science v
Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Thread Modes
Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
Gawdzilla Sama Offline
Banana Hammer
*****
Religious Views: Rational
Posts: 19881
Threads: 324
Joined: July 31, 2016
Reputation: 34
#31
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
October 19, 2017 at 7:30 am
Submarines submerge by increasing their mass, not by changing their shape. Just a thought.
Find
Reply
The Grand Nudger Offline
Retired Staff
*****
Religious Views: Invasive
Posts: 67189
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation: 162
#32
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
October 19, 2017 at 7:32 am (This post was last modified: October 19, 2017 at 7:34 am by The Grand Nudger.)
...shhhh, shh, you're ruining it Sama.. : popcorn :

(sidenote though, any amateur or even pro-ass boatbuilders on these boards? The forum is missing dat thread)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Find
Reply
Succubus Offline
Huge Member
***
Religious Views: Unsaved
Posts: 2435
Threads: 21
Joined: May 5, 2017
Reputation: 26
#33
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
October 19, 2017 at 7:32 am
(October 19, 2017 at 7:26 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: I think Succubus doesn't want to admit that he was wrong.

My suspicions were correct.

TROLL!
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
Find
Reply
Anomalocaris Offline
Stem arthropod
*****
Religious Views: None
Posts: 19789
Threads: 57
Joined: September 24, 2010
Reputation: 85
#34
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
October 19, 2017 at 7:36 am (This post was last modified: October 19, 2017 at 7:38 am by Anomalocaris.)
(October 19, 2017 at 7:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Submarines submerge by increasing their mass, not by changing their shape. Just a thought.

That’s one way to look at it.

Another way is when the submarine is floating, it’s water displacing shape is the usual cigar shaped cylinder that exclude water from its outside.  When it submerges, it’s water displacing shape becomes a complicated thing in which various parts of the interior of cylinder  transforms into pinched off pockets of the exterior water.

So the submarine changed its water displacing shape, even if not its hydrodynamic shape, when it submerges.
Find
Reply
notimportant1234 Offline
Someone
***
Religious Views: Atheist
Posts: 630
Threads: 16
Joined: October 14, 2017
Reputation: 4
#35
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
October 19, 2017 at 7:36 am (This post was last modified: October 19, 2017 at 7:38 am by notimportant1234.)
(October 19, 2017 at 7:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Submarines submerge by increasing their mass, not by changing their shape. Just a 
I never stated that mass isn't a factor here, that is why you work on shape and size , to support more mass. Succubus saied that shape isn't important and has nothing to do with it, that is why I didn't agree with him.
(October 19, 2017 at 7:32 am)Succubus Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 7:26 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: I think Succubus doesn't want to admit that he was wrong.

My suspicions were correct.

TROLL!

Why am I a troll ?
Find
Reply
Succubus Offline
Huge Member
***
Religious Views: Unsaved
Posts: 2435
Threads: 21
Joined: May 5, 2017
Reputation: 26
#36
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
October 19, 2017 at 7:39 am
(October 19, 2017 at 7:36 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 7:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Submarines submerge by increasing their mass, not by changing their shape. Just a thought.

That’s one way to look at it.

Another way is when the submarine is floating, it’s water displacing shape is the usual cigar shaped cylinder that exclude water from its outside.  When it submerges, it’s water displacing shape becomes a complicated thing in which various parts of the interior of cylinder  transforms into pinched off pockets of the exterior water.

So the submarine changed its water displacing shape, even if not its hydrodynamic shape, when it submerges.

No.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
Find
Reply
Anomalocaris Offline
Stem arthropod
*****
Religious Views: None
Posts: 19789
Threads: 57
Joined: September 24, 2010
Reputation: 85
#37
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
October 19, 2017 at 7:43 am (This post was last modified: October 19, 2017 at 7:51 am by Anomalocaris.)
(October 19, 2017 at 7:39 am)Succubus Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 7:36 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: That’s one way to look at it.

Another way is when the submarine is floating, it’s water displacing shape is the usual cigar shaped cylinder that exclude water from its outside.  When it submerges, it’s water displacing shape becomes a complicated thing in which various parts of the interior of cylinder  transforms into pinched off pockets of the exterior water.

So the submarine changed its water displacing shape, even if not its hydrodynamic shape, when it submerges.

No.

Yes.   A submarine submerges by reducing the amount of water it displaces.  It does so by allowing water into parts of its interior, name the ballast tanks, that formerly excluded, thus displaced, water. Thus it now displaces less water.
Find
Reply
The Grand Nudger Offline
Retired Staff
*****
Religious Views: Invasive
Posts: 67189
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation: 162
#38
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
October 19, 2017 at 7:43 am
Nah, it increased it's mass.  

A less torturous but still strained idea of a sub changing shape to submerge is when it alters the orientation of it's planes.  If it has enough thrust it can fight it's buoyancy....but it's more efficient to increase mass.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Find
Reply
Gawdzilla Sama Offline
Banana Hammer
*****
Religious Views: Rational
Posts: 19881
Threads: 324
Joined: July 31, 2016
Reputation: 34
#39
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
October 19, 2017 at 7:44 am
(October 19, 2017 at 7:36 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 7:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Submarines submerge by increasing their mass, not by changing their shape. Just a thought.

That’s one way to look at it.

Another way is when the submarine is floating, it’s water displacing shape is the usual cigar shaped cylinder that exclude water from its outside.  When it submerges, it’s water displacing shape becomes a complicated thing in which various parts of the interior of cylinder  transforms into pinched off pockets of the exterior water.

So the submarine changed its water displacing shape, even if not its hydrodynamic shape, when it submerges.
Not really, because the buoyancy tanks are closed off from the outside. The water in the tanks is the same as the equipment or the crew when it comes to buoyancy.
Find
Reply
The Grand Nudger Offline
Retired Staff
*****
Religious Views: Invasive
Posts: 67189
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation: 162
#40
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
October 19, 2017 at 7:47 am (This post was last modified: October 19, 2017 at 7:49 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Tossing my kids overboard does nothing to the shape of my hull.....but it does help me ride a little higher and get over the stumps.  Wink

(an engineers description for passengers on a ship - variable ballast)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Find
Reply


Atheist Forums › Science › General Science v
Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Mythbusters: does God exist KUSA 10 2431 December 9, 2015 at 8:51 am
Last Post: Homeless Nutter
  "Time does not exist outside of the universe, so nothing can predate the universe." IanHulett 18 7643 February 22, 2015 at 12:20 pm
Last Post: ReptilianPeon
  It doesn’t matter what neuroscience has to say Mudhammam 11 3945 February 9, 2014 at 2:26 pm
Last Post: Chad32
  Gravity Variations Over Earth Much Bigger Than Previously Thought KichigaiNeko 0 1077 September 10, 2013 at 12:37 pm
Last Post: KichigaiNeko
  creationist tried to tell me embrology doesn't support evolution. justin 74 25102 April 22, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Last Post: Statler Waldorf
Thumbs Up Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ Phish 30 14638 March 13, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Last Post: ManMachine
  Science might have found why some people are gay. Gooders1002 9 3945 December 15, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Last Post: Gooders1002
  Time lapse video from the ISS - It doesn't get any better than this! orogenicman 2 1686 November 15, 2011 at 3:03 am
Last Post: KichigaiNeko
  Worst explanations for gravity? Aegrus 21 6856 September 21, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Last Post: ReB



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)