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Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
#31
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
Submarines submerge by increasing their mass, not by changing their shape. Just a thought.
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#32
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
...shhhh, shh, you're ruining it Sama.. : popcorn :

(sidenote though, any amateur or even pro-ass boatbuilders on these boards? The forum is missing dat thread)
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#33
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
(October 19, 2017 at 7:26 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: I think Succubus doesn't want to admit that he was wrong.

My suspicions were correct.

TROLL!
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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#34
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
(October 19, 2017 at 7:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Submarines submerge by increasing their mass, not by changing their shape. Just a thought.

That’s one way to look at it.

Another way is when the submarine is floating, it’s water displacing shape is the usual cigar shaped cylinder that exclude water from its outside.  When it submerges, it’s water displacing shape becomes a complicated thing in which various parts of the interior of cylinder  transforms into pinched off pockets of the exterior water.

So the submarine changed its water displacing shape, even if not its hydrodynamic shape, when it submerges.
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#35
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
(October 19, 2017 at 7:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Submarines submerge by increasing their mass, not by changing their shape. Just a 
I never stated that mass isn't a factor here, that is why you work on shape and size , to support more mass. Succubus saied that shape isn't important and has nothing to do with it, that is why I didn't agree with him.

(October 19, 2017 at 7:32 am)Succubus Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 7:26 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: I think Succubus doesn't want to admit that he was wrong.

My suspicions were correct.

TROLL!

Why am I a troll ?
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#36
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
(October 19, 2017 at 7:36 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 7:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Submarines submerge by increasing their mass, not by changing their shape. Just a thought.

That’s one way to look at it.

Another way is when the submarine is floating, it’s water displacing shape is the usual cigar shaped cylinder that exclude water from its outside.  When it submerges, it’s water displacing shape becomes a complicated thing in which various parts of the interior of cylinder  transforms into pinched off pockets of the exterior water.

So the submarine changed its water displacing shape, even if not its hydrodynamic shape, when it submerges.

No.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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#37
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
(October 19, 2017 at 7:39 am)Succubus Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 7:36 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: That’s one way to look at it.

Another way is when the submarine is floating, it’s water displacing shape is the usual cigar shaped cylinder that exclude water from its outside.  When it submerges, it’s water displacing shape becomes a complicated thing in which various parts of the interior of cylinder  transforms into pinched off pockets of the exterior water.

So the submarine changed its water displacing shape, even if not its hydrodynamic shape, when it submerges.

No.

Yes.   A submarine submerges by reducing the amount of water it displaces.  It does so by allowing water into parts of its interior, name the ballast tanks, that formerly excluded, thus displaced, water. Thus it now displaces less water.
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#38
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
Nah, it increased it's mass.  

A less torturous but still strained idea of a sub changing shape to submerge is when it alters the orientation of it's planes.  If it has enough thrust it can fight it's buoyancy....but it's more efficient to increase mass.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#39
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
(October 19, 2017 at 7:36 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 7:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Submarines submerge by increasing their mass, not by changing their shape. Just a thought.

That’s one way to look at it.

Another way is when the submarine is floating, it’s water displacing shape is the usual cigar shaped cylinder that exclude water from its outside.  When it submerges, it’s water displacing shape becomes a complicated thing in which various parts of the interior of cylinder  transforms into pinched off pockets of the exterior water.

So the submarine changed its water displacing shape, even if not its hydrodynamic shape, when it submerges.
Not really, because the buoyancy tanks are closed off from the outside. The water in the tanks is the same as the equipment or the crew when it comes to buoyancy.
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#40
RE: Some people believe that gravity doesn't exist
Tossing my kids overboard does nothing to the shape of my hull.....but it does help me ride a little higher and get over the stumps.  Wink

(an engineers description for passengers on a ship - variable ballast)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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