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How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
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 (November 18, 2017 at 6:07 am)alpha male Wrote:(November 17, 2017 at 5:31 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: If you have read any of the critical books on God, you will have seen God described with some rather disingenuous terms that, if applied to a man, would see that man executed by any moral government in quick order. Isn't he? He sloshed about in the womb for 40 weeks didn't he?
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I'm just not as impressed by the character of jesus, nor of Watts opinions on jesus.
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November 19, 2017 at 9:23 am
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(November 18, 2017 at 4:50 pm)Chad32 Wrote:(November 18, 2017 at 3:47 pm)alpha male Wrote: Standard operating procedure. Go to a grocery store. Check out the meat section. Check out the pest control section. We routinely kill other beings merely because they're tasty or a minor annoyance. We conveniently draw the "immoral" line at ourselves, and some animals like dogs and cats that amuse us. His motives are righteous judgment. Ours are tasty meat and getting rid of petty annoyances. So, yes, he's more enlightened than we are. (November 18, 2017 at 4:11 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: I would have to have an example of this before judging if you are correct or not. I did, with the example that followed. Humans claim rights over lesser beings, but cry foul when a greater being claims rights over themselves. Quote:God can cure and make the lesser equal if he chooses to do so. And he will do so with the saved. If you don't want in on it, that's your choice. (November 19, 2017 at 9:23 am)alpha male Wrote: I did, with the example that followed. Humans claim rights over lesser beings, but cry foul when a greater being claims rights over themselves.Set fire to a dog and see how people respond, lol. I just want to be clear, here...that you're expressing the notion not only of people as property....but people as property with even fewer rights than a dog under our own sense of ownership?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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November 19, 2017 at 10:55 am
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November 19, 2017 at 11:33 am
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(November 19, 2017 at 9:23 am)alpha male Wrote:(November 18, 2017 at 4:50 pm)Chad32 Wrote: So he's no more enlightened than we are? Righteous judgement? He's letting people through or rejecting them based mainly on whether or not they worship them, instead of their actions. You can spend your whole life feeding the poor, tending to the sick and downtrodden, and doing your best to build a better future for the next generation, but if you follow a different religion or just don't believe in religion, you go to hell. You can be a mass murdering narcissist, but if you repent on your deathbed, you get into heaven. That's not righteous. Yes, our reasons are tasty meat. Because we need meat for a well balanced diet. Not everyone can handle a completely vegan diet. Certainly not young children. Meat is a basic necessity. And while we do think of animals as property, many of us usually cry foul when people abuse or kill animals wantonly. RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 19, 2017 at 12:02 pm
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Quote:[quote pid='1659160' dateline='1511035897'] I did, with the example that followed. Humans claim rights over lesser beings, but cry foul when a greater being claims rights over themselves. [/quote] That is not so as no greater being, in terms of a God, has ever appeared to claim that right. Till one does, as Jesus said, man is the light of the world. If you find a God with a greater light, that is real and not just in the imagination of people, then you might have a point. Quote:Quote:God can cure and make the lesser equal if he chooses to do so. [/quote] Saved from who if not the same entity that immorally condemned them for being exactly what such a being created. Regards DL RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 19, 2017 at 2:01 pm
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(November 19, 2017 at 10:55 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Why? The "archetypal jesus" is an invention of your own mind, not the character of scripture. I think it;s amusing that you've somehow transformed jesusism, in your mind, to free thinking. While that fiction may be, in your re-imagining, some sort of bodhisattva, the jesus of scripture asks questions like- "Do bitches even deserve miracles?" You could have told me you follow the god Bob, who's a super swell dude, and it would've been just that much more coherent.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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