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Eternal afterlife
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 Eternal afterlife
November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2017 at 3:57 pm by purplepurpose.)
Eternal punishment for temporary crimes and eternal heaven for temporary work? It sounds unnatural. And yet people preach it like it's perfect God's word.
Maybe because they read it in some stupid old book?
Quote:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. RE: Eternal hell and heaven
November 21, 2017 at 4:05 pm
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2017 at 4:10 pm by purplepurpose.)
(November 21, 2017 at 3:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Maybe because they read it in some stupid old book? This crazy belief is better than heavy drugs and depression at least.  (November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Eternal punishment for temporary crimes and eternal heaven for temporary work? It sounds unnatural. And yet people preach it like it's perfect God's word. The motif of "getting even" is a natural emotion in our species. Even in other life, when the individual, or group is attacked, the rival, or invasive species will be reacted to. The problem with religion, even crap like "karma" and "reincarnation", not just hell, is that they are a comic book reflection of our species behaviors. An atheist parent in their right mind is going to want to beat the shit out of, or murder someone whom rapes their kid. But you can see that same protection in other species too. Try fucking with a mother gator's nest. Try fucking with a lioness's cubs. Point being, there is no comic book punishment or reward being handed down to humans anymore than there is a Yellowjacket bee God causing them to chase you if you stumble on their nest and kill one of their members. What we also evolved with as a species that gets chalked up to fantasy, is our other natural behaviors in displaying empathy and compassion. It is why we have grown to value courts, and lawyers, and move away from concepts of revenge. The same parent, who'd feel like killing someone whom assaulted their child, would also not want that same child falsely accused of something they did not do. We have grown as a species to greater or lesser degrees depending on time and geography, to value the idea that tit for tat doesn't always work. I'd love to, for example (METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING ONLY) if I had the power, to beat the fuck out of the bullies on my street growing up. But what good does that do me now other than to satisfy my own emotions. I am sure they have kids now and spouses, my only wish would be that they don't teach their kids to do to me what they did to me. The biggest example I can think of in modern history of why "leave them to rot" does not work, was what happened to Germany after WW1. I have no doubt if the rest of the world had not left them to rot, Hitler never would have rose to power. Now you look at what we did after WW2 with Germany and Japan, they are our allies now. Point being. There is no magic to our species behaviors. There is no holy writing that will give us our morals. There is no magic explanation as to why we do good or bad to each other. We do, and we always will. But, we can seek explanations in natural terms instead of clinging to old mythology. (November 21, 2017 at 4:05 pm)purplepurpose Wrote:(November 21, 2017 at 3:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Maybe because they read it in some stupid old book? I don't know about that. It's the theist equivalent of "wait until my big brother gets here and he will beat you up." It allows fools to sit there and smugly think that they are going to get to watch all the people they hate burn in hell for ever. There is a certain class of people who finds that very reassuring. I don't know what you call them but I call them assholes. 
It seems that crazy belief just -might- contribute to depression and heavy drugs.....I'm pretty sure we've had this conversation before......?
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 (November 21, 2017 at 4:05 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: This crazy belief is better than heavy drugs and depression at least. It's a cure for which there is no known disease. The ultimate mental panacea. Once upon a time, rulers used it as a means for keeping the unwashed masses from rising up and doing a Mugabe on them. Now people enchain themselves with it. How can that be "better"?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (November 21, 2017 at 4:05 pm)purplepurpose Wrote:(November 21, 2017 at 3:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Maybe because they read it in some stupid old book? Depends whether you think a comforting lie is better than a harsh truth.
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