Metro Detroit mom jailed for not vaccinating son loses primary custody

http://www.wxyz.com/news/metro-detroit-m...ry-custody

What is the world coming to, sanity?

I know this died awhile ago but there is a recent article on exemptions in Washington state.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/co....2017-2364

(September 20, 2017 at 9:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I would plan to vaccinate my kids, but I feel like if someone doesn't want to for whatever reason they shouldn't be forced into it .

Even if it means the potential death of that person's child?

(December 18, 2017 at 1:35 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(September 20, 2017 at 9:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I would plan to vaccinate my kids, but I feel like if someone doesn't want to for whatever reason they shouldn't be forced into it .

Even if it means the potential death of that person's child?

People go to prison for that level of neglect.

(December 18, 2017 at 1:35 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(September 20, 2017 at 9:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I would plan to vaccinate my kids, but I feel like if someone doesn't want to for whatever reason they shouldn't be forced into it .

Even if it means the potential death of that person's child?

How much potential though? No parent declines vaccinating their kid while knowing there's a big risk they might die from it. Instead they think the risk of the vaccine itself is greater than the risk of the child catching a deadly disease and dying from it.

(December 18, 2017 at 2:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(December 18, 2017 at 1:35 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Even if it means the potential death of that person's child?

How much potential though? No parent declines vaccinating their kid while knowing there's a big risk they might die from it. Instead they think the risk of the vaccine itself is greater than the risk of the child catching a deadly disease and dying from it.

They are wrong and their mistake could lead to the death of an innocent. Like believing a naked toddler can survive in sub zero temperatures for a few days. In my mind there is no difference.

(December 18, 2017 at 2:34 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(December 18, 2017 at 2:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: How much potential though? No parent declines vaccinating their kid while knowing there's a big risk they might die from it. Instead they think the risk of the vaccine itself is greater than the risk of the child catching a deadly disease and dying from it.

They are wrong and their mistake could lead to the death of an innocent. Like believing a naked toddler can survive in sub zero temperatures for a few days. In my mind there is no difference.

Obviously it isnt nearly that extreme. If there was some sort of crazy outbreak of something and people were dying unless they were vaccinated, then yes, that would be an accurate analogy. As it is now though, it isn't like that.

(December 18, 2017 at 2:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(December 18, 2017 at 1:35 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Even if it means the potential death of that person's child?

How much potential though? No parent declines vaccinating their kid while knowing there's a big risk they might die from it. Instead they think the risk of the vaccine itself is greater than the risk of the child catching a deadly disease and dying from it.

On what basis? And before you answer, parents have killed their children on the basis of religiously inspired medical neglect, do not even attempt to pretend that they have not.

(December 18, 2017 at 2:45 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(December 18, 2017 at 2:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: How much potential though? No parent declines vaccinating their kid while knowing there's a big risk they might die from it. Instead they think the risk of the vaccine itself is greater than the risk of the child catching a deadly disease and dying from it.

On what basis? And before you answer, parents have killed their children on the basis of religiously inspired medical neglect, do not even attempt to pretend that they have not.

Not sure why/where religion got brought into this since I didn't mention it at all.

All the arguments ive heard personally from anti vaxxers has nothing to do with religion. They think vaccines may cause some sort of neurological reaction, autism, etc. They think it's risky, no longer necessary, and unhealthy. I dont know of any religion that forbids vaccines. Not saying they dont exist, just saying im pretry sure most anti vaxxers are concerned about health reasons, not influenced by religion.

(December 18, 2017 at 2:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(December 18, 2017 at 1:35 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Even if it means the potential death of that person's child?

How much potential though? No parent declines vaccinating their kid while knowing there's a big risk they might die from it. Instead they think the risk of the vaccine itself is greater than the risk of the child catching a deadly disease and dying from it.

Plain and simple. You're more likely to die of small pox than suffer an adverse reaction to the vaccine. If people are to stupid to figure than out, they need to be educated, and if necessary, required by law to protect their kids.