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Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
[Image: pregnancy-week-10-fingernails_square.jpg...l2aXXT.jpg]
For anyone who is interested, here is a picture of the human baby, that is being discussed, and some think should be killed.


Also, as it turns out, people with down syndrome are human after all.
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RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
(December 29, 2017 at 9:31 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: [Image: pregnancy-week-10-fingernails_square.jpg...l2aXXT.jpg]
For anyone who is interested, here is a picture of the human baby, that is being discussed, and some think should be killed.


Also, as it turns out, people with down syndrome are human after all.


Repeating a Biblical Un-Truth will NEVER make it true. And it doesn't matter of you're religious or not, posts like that give false succor and comfort in their Error.

It's unensouled, and therefore, it is not a living human being.


Genesis 2:7 (KJV)
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


And I realize, even PLAINLY WORDED, perfectly clear Bible verses can appear to be twisted and connived and lied into saying the exact opposite of what they clearly say, but dammit, it's right there, upfront in the Bible. If someone doesn't like it, be honest, declare a schism and spout your unBible nonsense under your own flag that you know better than Jehovah, the Lord God Almighty.
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RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
I'd love to post in utero/post birth photo's of other genetic defects but that would be to graphic. Posting a picture of a phenotypically normal appearing defect does not support an anti abortion agenda.
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RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
(December 29, 2017 at 9:31 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: [Image: pregnancy-week-10-fingernails_square.jpg...l2aXXT.jpg]
For anyone who is interested, here is a picture of the human baby, that is being discussed, and some think should be killed.


Also, as it turns out, people with down syndrome are human after all.

Go get yourself pregnant then and have a baby.
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RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
(December 29, 2017 at 9:31 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: [Image: pregnancy-week-10-fingernails_square.jpg...l2aXXT.jpg]
For anyone who is interested, here is a picture of the human baby, that is being discussed, and some think should be killed.


Also, as it turns out, people with down syndrome are human after all.

That baby is 10 weeks old, too. Abortions on down syndrome babies aren't done until about half way through the second trimester because that's when they are found out... around 20 weeks.

Here is a more accurate representation of what some people here think we should be allowed to kill by ripping apart limb from limb: https://www.babycentre.co.uk/20-weeks-pregnant
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(December 29, 2017 at 10:19 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I'd love to post in utero/post birth photo's of other genetic defects but that would be to graphic. Posting a picture of a phenotypically normal appearing defect does not support an anti abortion agenda.

For sure, its very manipulative, and reveals once again an utter lack of empathy for women who need legal access to these services.
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RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
Triple screening tests are typically done at 12 weeks, which is still in the 1st trimester . That's not even close to 20 weeks. 20 weeks is during the second trimester. What CL is referring to is an amniocentesis, which is performed at 16 weeks because there is plenty of room in the sac to draw fluid from and the baby has sloughed off enough cells to do the DNA tests on the fluid. And the reason why it's even done at all is because prior testing showed some sort of an abnormality. They don't just do an amniocentesis for shits and giggles.

As I said before the triple screening, at best is only 60% accurate.

This is all a moot point. All the graphic photos can be shown here all people want. It doesn't change the fact that it is still a woman's right to do with her body, what she feels is right for her. Period. People trying to gross out others is just really sick and immature.
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(December 29, 2017 at 1:05 pm)Joods Wrote: Triple screening tests are typically done at 12 weeks, which is still in the 1st trimester . That's not even close to 20 weeks. 20 weeks is during the second trimester. What CL is referring to is an amniocentesis, which is performed at 16 weeks because there is plenty of room in the sac to draw fluid from and the baby has sloughed off enough cells to do the DNA tests on the fluid. And the reason why it's even done at all is because prior testing showed some sort of an abnormality. They don't just do an amniocentesis for shits and giggles.

As I said before the triple screening, at best is only 60% accurate.

This is all a moot point. All the graphic photos can be shown here all people want. It doesn't change the fact that it is still a woman's right to do with her body, what she feels is right for her. Period. People trying to gross out others is just really sick and immature.

But people dont abort their babies after a positive screen because they are only 30% accurate. They do it after an amniocentesis which, as you said, doesn't happen until 16 weeks at the very earlieat. (Mine was at 19 weeks).

And just for the record, the link I posted wasn't of an aborted 20 week baby. It was a link from Baby Center with an illustration and a paragraph explaining his/her developments at that time. Nothing abortion related. I think the only person who posted a pic of an aborted baby was A Theist, and it wasn't to "gross out." It was to show what aborting a 2nd trimester baby actually looks like. If people are going to support that, they should be informed of exactly what it is they are supporting.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
(December 29, 2017 at 1:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(December 29, 2017 at 1:05 pm)Joods Wrote: Triple screening tests are typically done at 12 weeks, which is still in the 1st trimester . That's not even close to 20 weeks. 20 weeks is during the second trimester. What CL is referring to is an amniocentesis, which is performed at 16 weeks because there is plenty of room in the sac to draw fluid from and the baby has sloughed off enough cells to do the DNA tests on the fluid. And the reason why it's even done at all is because prior testing showed some sort of an abnormality. They don't just do an amniocentesis for shits and giggles.

As I said before the triple screening, at best is only 60% accurate.

This is all a moot point. All the graphic photos can be shown here all people want. It doesn't change the fact that it is still a woman's right to do with her body, what she feels is right for her. Period. People trying to gross out others is just really sick and immature.

But people dont abort their babies after a positive screen because they are only 30% accurate. They do it after an amniocentesis which, as you said, doesn't happen until 16 weeks at the very earlieat. (Mine was at 19 weeks).

And just for the record, the link I posted wasn't of an aborted 20 week baby. It was a link from Baby Center with an illustration and a paragraph explaining his/her developments at that time. Nothing abortion related. I think the only person who posted a pic of an aborted baby was A Theist, and it wasn't to "gross out." It was to show what aborting a 2nd trimester baby actually looks like. If people are going to support that, they should be informed of exactly what it is they are supporting.

CL, what do you want? Make abortion illegal all over the world? And if so, do you think this would make things better for your fellow women?
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RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
(December 29, 2017 at 9:31 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: [Image: pregnancy-week-10-fingernails_square.jpg...l2aXXT.jpg]
For anyone who is interested, here is a picture of the human baby, that is being discussed, and some think should be killed.


Also, as it turns out, people with down syndrome are human after all.

No RR this is a baby:

[Image: Baby.jpg]

What you posted was a foetus. I know you're mentally deficient but even you should know the difference.
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