(January 5, 2018 at 6:11 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(January 5, 2018 at 1:25 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Models have been built and were shown to survive tremendously bad seas.

GC

Yeah, right. 

I see you don't care about science if it comes from Christians, so tell me why should I care about science that come from atheist.

GC

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(January 5, 2018 at 6:22 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(January 5, 2018 at 1:25 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Models have been built and were shown to survive tremendously bad seas.

But did they use a more flexible material to simulate the use of wood at a larger scale?

It was built out of wood to the specifications the Bible gives.

GC

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(January 5, 2018 at 10:23 am)Chad32 Wrote:

(January 5, 2018 at 1:25 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Models have been built and were shown to survive tremendously bad seas.

GC

Not a completely wooden boat as big as the ark was supposed to be.

 Correct a scaled replica floated in a large tank that had waves produced to represent the conditions that were suspected to be during the flood.  just as engineers do with modern day vessels before they build them, see Christians do use science and use it well.

GC

(January 6, 2018 at 12:33 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(January 5, 2018 at 10:23 am)Chad32 Wrote: Not a completely wooden boat as big as the ark was supposed to be.

 Correct a scaled replica floated in a large tank that had waves produced to represent the conditions that were suspected to be during the flood.  just as engineers do with modern day vessels before they build them, see Christians do use science and use it well.

GC

Bill Nye disagreed, in his debate with Ken Ham, and I believe him over you. A scaled replica is not going to work, when the problem is the actual boat would be too large and heavy for wood to support. You can't build a boat to the specifications listed in the bible, put it in the ocean, and expect it to last a month in open water.

(January 5, 2018 at 3:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(January 5, 2018 at 1:25 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Models have been built and were shown to survive tremendously bad seas.

GC

You're a fucking idiot, G-C.  Don't ever change.

 The real idiot is the one who denies the truth and from where I sit you are the denier, but I do hope you change.

GC

(January 6, 2018 at 12:56 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(January 5, 2018 at 3:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You're a fucking idiot, G-C.  Don't ever change.

 The real idiot is the one who denies the truth and from where I sit you are the denier, but I do hope you change.

GC

GC, no one who lack the cognative power equal to recognizing that Christianity is bullshit have the cognative power to really understand what science is. So the first thing to do if you wish to understand science is to throw away what Christian apologists tell you are the sciency they did to justify the foundational myths of Christianity.

(January 6, 2018 at 12:33 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(January 5, 2018 at 6:11 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Yeah, right. 

I see you don't care about science if it comes from Christians, so tell me why should I care about science that come from atheist.

GC

You haven't provided science done by christers. You've provided unevidenced assertions. Unless you're willing to provide some evidence...

How does a 600 yr old man build anything?
Bible magic...
How did the saltwater fish survive the sudden change in salinity and temperature?
Bible magic...
How did our 6000 year old Bristle Cone pines survive the flood?
Babble magick...
How did other civilizations not get wiped out?
?

(January 6, 2018 at 12:33 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(January 5, 2018 at 6:11 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Yeah, right. 

I see you don't care about science if it comes from Christians, so tell me why should I care about science that come from atheist.

GC

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(January 5, 2018 at 6:22 am)Mathilda Wrote: But did they use a more flexible material to simulate the use of wood at a larger scale?

It was built out of wood to the specifications the Bible gives.

GC

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(January 5, 2018 at 10:23 am)Chad32 Wrote: Not a completely wooden boat as big as the ark was supposed to be.

 Correct a scaled replica floated in a large tank that had waves produced to represent the conditions that were suspected to be during the flood.  just as engineers do with modern day vessels before they build them, see Christians do use science and use it well.

GC

The most comprehensive test of this (of which I'm aware) was a Smithsonian article from a few years ago.  A group of physics students built a scale model and worked out that the Ark as described could be loaded with animals and would float, but that's about all it would do, and not for very long.  The length of the beams required would make them extremely fragile, and they would shear under their own weight within a few hours (you could get round that by using smaller beams spliced together, but that would drastically increase the likelihood of leaks).  Even if the Ark did manage to stay afloat, the weight of the barge + cargo would put the upper deck of the Ark less than a metre above the waterline, so that even a modest wave would flood the deck and capsize the boat.

I think a fair test would be to build a child's boat out of cardboard, set it in a wading pool, and turn a firehose on it.

Boru

(January 6, 2018 at 3:45 am)Antares Wrote: How does a 600 yr old man build anything?
Bible magic...
How did the saltwater fish survive the sudden change in salinity and temperature?
Bible magic...
How did our 6000 year old Bristle Cone pines survive the flood?
Babble magick...
How did other civilizations not get wiped out?
?

How do you fit all the world's species, including millions of animals, plants, fungi, and bacteria, onto a boat?
Bible magic...
How exactly did Noah isolate specimens of diseases like the bubonic plague to put them on the ship (and why exactly was this a good idea)?
Twisted Bible magic...
How do you re-establish a population of anything from 2 organisms, which is an impossibly low amount of genetic diversity?
Bible magic...

When the trip was done, how did koalas, penguins, and kinkajous get home?

Bible magic.

How did the big carnivores get home, and what did they eat on the trip?

Bible magic.

Why do people continue to believe the Flood narrative as literally true?

Stupidity.

Boru

As the yearly "we found Noahs ark" stories emerge once more, it strikes me that even find a big boat up a mountain would not be proof of the flood.

You would have to prove that religious nuts did not build one up there. Look at all the Ark "replicas" around the world now and its been a story, for what, 5000 years, plenty of time for some motivated idiot to build one up a hill.