Quote:However, you provide no evidence to support your claims.

They never do.  It's part of the whole god outlook.

Christianity is the best . . .

Well, can we narrow it down a bit? 40,000 plus schisms and denominations and another 35,000 unregulated independent churches dotting the planet makes it pretty hard to know just what anyone is talking about when they invoke the word "Christianity".


Could we narrow it down to the top 1000 or so ? You know, improve the odds of getting it right a little ??


And remember, The Congregation of Jehovah's Presbytery of Zion needs to be highly placed in that list of the top 1000 !!!

(February 18, 2018 at 12:55 am)Nimbus Wrote: Christianity is the best religion because you'll have a god that you can trust to lead you to the light, a god that will help you through dark times.

Why do atheists have aversion to the fact that there is an afterlife and that there is a god?

Does any atheists care to respond?

Trollers gonna troll. 




Fuck all gods and fuck all religions. 
Atheists don't have an aversion to your "claim" that there is an afterlife and your "claim" that there is a god. We simply don't believe in that sort of woo. Besides - you don't know with 100% certainty that you even picked the right god. So really, the joke is on you. 

Your god committed the first genocide. Not gonna trust a narcissistic pile of dog shit that isn't even willing to do his own:

• recruiting work, or
  
• cure cancer, or
  
• eradicate disease, or
  
• end hunger, or
  
• prevent hurricanes, tornadoes and other natural disasters, or
  
• prevent people from killing other people via mass shootings, or
  
• prevent car accidents, or
  
• stop war, or
  
• prevent domestic violence, or
  
• prevent rape or sexual assault, or
  
• grow back body parts
  

But hey... feel free to remain brainwashed and blind. 
Tell me, do you enjoy all the parts of the bible or just the ones that you find pleasing to read? 
What about women who wear their hair short? 
Do you like wearing mixed fabrics? 
Do you eat pizza? 
Cheeseburgers? 
Steamed crabs? 
Pork products? 
Jell-O?
Do you observe the Sabbath or are you committed to going to church on Sundays, when, technically, it's the wrong day?
How does your church handle divorces? 
How does your church punish any of the offenses above?

How about you theists cut the crap with these sorts of posts. If you want honest discussion, let's have one. If not - peddle your useless woo elsewhere.

(February 18, 2018 at 1:15 am)Nimbus Wrote:

(February 18, 2018 at 1:11 am)Astreja Wrote: If your god exists, it can show up at my place at its leisure to have a chat with me.  Your efforts to convert us are simply not required, mortal.

Well, just because you don't see something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist..... I mean you can't see radio waves; so, according to your belief, that means they don't exist either, am i right?

We can measure radio waves, we can examine them, we can quantify them.

We can do none of this with your god. And worse, the one attempt to do so, the bible, showed from its very beginning that your god is an impossibility, no being can be both omnipotent and omniscient.

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(February 18, 2018 at 1:53 am)Nimbus Wrote:

(February 18, 2018 at 1:49 am)Astreja Wrote: I don't need 100% certainty.  I believe that the probability of the Jesus stories being true is infinitesimally small, so 99.999...% certainty is fine for me.

 So, because something seems far-fetched, that means (for you atheists) it doesn't exist, am I right?

No when something (eg yhwh) can be shown as an impossibility, then it doesn't exist.

Tell me, numbus, do you know why you believe in god? I do.

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(February 18, 2018 at 2:13 am)AFTT47 Wrote: Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with Occam's Razor. You have access to Google so I'm not going to bother with a link. Occam's Razor is the assertion that if there are multiple possible explanations to a phenomena, the simplest explanation is most likely to be true.

Well, it's a bit more precise than that. William of Ockham's doctrine of least causes states than when you have multiple equally plausible explanations for an event or a thing existing then you chose the one that has the easiest explanation to make it happen.

God assertions don't even manage to get to an equal level of plausibility as naturalistic theories, and thus they do not meet the criteria necessary to be even considered for the Razor.

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(February 18, 2018 at 4:35 am)Nimbus Wrote:

(February 18, 2018 at 4:12 am)Grandizer Wrote: What denomination are you?

 Roman Catholic.

Yeah right, numbnuts. You don't speak like any catholic I've ever met. And being Irish I've met lots.

(February 18, 2018 at 1:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

We need to revise that with the New and Improved take on the Trinity we were blessed with here recently. Jesus' REAL daddy is the Holy Ghost, not the Lord God Almighty.

Or Himself . . . .

(February 18, 2018 at 12:55 am)Nimbus Wrote: Christianity is the best religion because you'll have a god that you can trust to lead you to the light, a god that will help you through dark times.

Why do atheists have aversion to the fact that there is an afterlife and that there is a god?

Does any atheists care to respond?

You can't assert your Christian God is worthy of your trust to lead you to the light, nope, nosiree, the only thing He is DEMONSTRABLY and PROVEN able to do is lead you to yet another schism.

Funny if your post there triggers another one, ain't it ?

(February 18, 2018 at 2:26 am)Nimbus Wrote:

(February 18, 2018 at 2:13 am)AFTT47 Wrote:

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You are wrong.

That something is far-fetched does not mean it is necessarily wrong. But at the same time, why in the world would you assume that something that is far-fetched is true? That is a greater stretch.

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Hmmmm, good point. That got me thinking.

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(February 18, 2018 at 2:13 am)AFTT47 Wrote:

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Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with Occam's Razor. You have access to Google so I'm not going to bother with a link. Occam's Razor is the assertion that if there are multiple possible explanations to a phenomena, the simplest explanation is most likely to be true.

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I'll look up that thing you mentioned (Occam's Razor) in a sec.

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(February 18, 2018 at 2:13 am)AFTT47 Wrote:

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The simplest explanation to the universe (or multiverse) is that we have no idea of how it originated. Pulling an explanation out of your ass with no evidence has no validity at all. God/Jesus has no more credibility than Allah, nor Vishnu, nor the Flying Spaghetti Monster, nor the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

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Quote:What about the Holy Bible? Isn't that an explanation?

Have you ever actually read the Bible?  Sat down and read it cover to cover, thinking about what you're reading, just as you would any other book?  Genesis 30 will even give you clear instructions on how to breed striped puppies, if you're into stuff like that.  Read it, without the "ooh, magic!" reaction. Have fun.

(February 18, 2018 at 12:20 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:

(February 18, 2018 at 8:46 am)chimp3 Wrote: Why should I trust a god that would torture and murder his own son because the neighbor's kids misbehaved? That is never a good idea.

Not really his own Son is He?  Think about it.

Fathered by the Holy Ghost, NOT The Lord God Almighty.  I'm thinking after reading all that Trinity explanation stuff we had posted here Jesus is more like the Lord God Almighty's nephew.

Scripture is REALLY clear, Holy Ghost did the deed to Virgin Mary.  To imply Holy Ghost had God's seed with Him, (instead of His own) is pretty twisted.

Artificial insemination! Holy Ghost can fly through a uterine wall like Casper! That way she is still a virgin.

(February 18, 2018 at 8:01 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(February 18, 2018 at 7:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, the BEST religion is Wicca.  Why?  Because Wiccans never come to my door and threaten me with punishment for not believing in the Goddess.

Boru

Don't they also dance around naked! another plus in my book.

Gimme that Old Time Religion!

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(February 18, 2018 at 1:53 am)Nimbus Wrote:

(February 18, 2018 at 1:49 am)Astreja Wrote: I don't need 100% certainty.  I believe that the probability of the Jesus stories being true is infinitesimally small, so 99.999...% certainty is fine for me.

 So, because something seems far-fetched, that means (for you atheists) it doesn't exist, am I right?

Not only that it is far-fetched. To the extent the claims of Christianity can be tested (age of the Earth, Exodus, etc), they have been found to be false.

As for the existence of God, I don't see any specific evidence of such. But I *do* see specific evidence of radio waves (my radio, my phone, etc). So, even if I was to regard radio waves as 'far-fetched', the evidence would convince me of their existence. Even more so, I can *test* to see whether the description of radio waves stated by Maxwell's equations agrees with the actual observations.

Don't forget that radio waves were predicted by the science before they were *detected*. Now, what method could you use to detect your God? And can those methods show that we detected *your* God, as opposed to that of Islam, or Judaism, or Thor, or Zeus, or Apollo, or any number of other mythological deities people have made up for their own comfort?

As for Christianity being the 'best' religion. I have to disagree. It is better than some (Islam is often worse) and worse than others (Judaism is pretty decent often), but they *all* fail to support their belief in supernatural entities.

So which is best and which is worse is irrelevant: they *all* fail to show why I should believe in them.