That's gonna be one hell of a thread. I hope the server's big enough.

Quote:Easy to type in a forum, mighty difficult to do when you're wondering if you'll make this month's rent. You're a counselor. Surely you're aware of Maslow's hierarchy.

I'm well aware of Maslow's hierarchy . But i also know this can't continue . If the people don't take a stand who will ?

This will be my last post on this thread.
1. When you buy a weapon you become a possible threat to a persons life so it should be mandatory that before you buy a weapon you shoul take an psychological evaluation.
2. If a sociopath can easily enter a store and buy a gun just like it was a can of soda , what are your gun laws for ?

(February 18, 2018 at 4:33 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: This will be my last post on this thread.
1. When you buy a weapon you become a possible threat to a persons life so it should be mandatory that before you buy a weapon you shoul take an psychological evaluation.
2. If a sociopath can easily enter a store and buy a gun just like it was a can of soda , what are your gun laws for ?

The local gun stores sold the Y-donor guns while he had late-stage Alzheimer's. We know he bought a couple of them while wearing only his underwear. Didn't bother the store owner a bit. No waiting period either, he was a "known customer".

This and others can be avoided and even ones in the past if people have gotten the mental care they needed.
All of this can be avoided with proper mental care in the U.S. but it's just never going to happen.

(February 18, 2018 at 5:52 pm)dyresand Wrote: This and others can be avoided and even ones in the past if people have gotten the mental care they needed.
All of this can be avoided with proper mental care in the U.S. but it's just never going to happen.

You can't catch everyone before they pop. Perfectly normal guy in Miami back in 1975, sitting on the front porch, wife and mother with him. Well, their heads were with him. Never a clue before he tipped.

(February 18, 2018 at 9:39 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(February 17, 2018 at 10:51 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Yes i don't view defence as justification for Americans current gun policy . And if the fix is the democratic system then it's still needs to be fixed .

Easy to type in a forum, mighty difficult to do when you're wondering if you'll make this month's rent. You're a counselor. Surely you're aware of Maslow's hierarchy.

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(February 18, 2018 at 6:14 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Guns are far more dangerous to the people in a residence than they are to any hypothetical intruder. The intruder would be in a house for, generously, an hour in his entire life. The residents live with the guns. This is why 34 innocent people die for every bad guy that gets shoot down. Guns are either ready for immediate use, and therefore not safe, or they're safe, and therefore not ready for immediate use. The FBI tells us that the most dangerous intruders are the ones who come when they KNOW people will be home. They are looking for a confrontation. They're ready, they initiate the event, not the resident.

The thing people need to defend their family from is their own poor decisions.

And that is something for you to mandate? How would you address the issue?

Another issue  Maslow's hierarchy has as pointed out by Noam Chomsky and others  comes with some dubious socioeconomic assumption especially the top of the pyramid .I dare say it seems somewhat capitalist at the top in what it regards are self actualization. And all to often Maslow's students and proponents ignore things like technology such as social media . Don't get me wrong i have a high degree of respect for Maslow just like i have great respect for B. F skinner , Carl Rogers , Jean Paiget , But their ideas had flaws and so does Maslow,s and i'll admit i'm a bit of a skeptic .

(February 15, 2018 at 1:36 pm)Shell B Wrote: I'm torn because I really do believe in the sentiment that people shouldn't be unarmed while the government and law enforcement are armed to the teeth.

There's one solution to that!

Don't arm Law Enforcement either

Just like us useless Brits

Useless Brits with less shootings

(February 14, 2018 at 8:25 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Nor is now ever the time to try to discuss or fix the problem.  Hopes and prayers, people, hopes and prayers.

To hooey with that poppycock.

(February 18, 2018 at 6:10 pm)Hammy Wrote:

(February 15, 2018 at 1:36 pm)Shell B Wrote: I'm torn because I really do believe in the sentiment that people shouldn't be unarmed while the government and law enforcement are armed to the teeth.

There's one solution to that!

Don't arm Law Enforcement either

Just like us useless Brits

Useless Brits with less shootings

They don't have guns because they rarely ever need them . The British police rely more on intel .