Quote:hy is a father who doesn't support his children a "deadbeat dad" but a mother who goes much further by murdering her unborn baby NOT a "deadbeat mom" and a killer at that?

Because in one scenario they fetus was born . And killing can be justified. And it's not murder murder is unlawful .

Quote:Why can a father have no "choice" in the matter as to whether he will pay child support for 18 years or alternatively never get to have and hold his own flesh and blood?

Not his body his say ends at ejaculation . After that he can go fuck himself 

Quote:Why do capable and loving grandparents, four of them, have no "choice" in this matter of butchering an innocent unborn grandchild?

Not their bodies 

Quote:The answer is not blowing in the wind.  The answer is that Norma McCorvey lied when she claimed to have been raped.  She was not, and therefore the decision in Roe v. Wade was based on falsified testimony and it should be overturned summarily.

It's irrelevant even if she did lie. The law stands on it's merit . 

Quote:Probably not staying long.  Godless Leftists are notoriously intolerant, and ban virtually anyone who doesn't march in godless lockstep with them.

If by intolerant you mean we don't pout up with sanctimonious bigots who cloak their bullshit in religious wrapping paper. And generally favour people who don't have these unfortunate qualities then yes yes we are .

(February 22, 2018 at 7:30 pm)Starman Wrote:

(February 22, 2018 at 7:26 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: You should be fun. Wonder if you'll have any staying power?

Probably not staying long.  Godless Leftists are notoriously intolerant, and ban virtually anyone who doesn't march in godless lockstep with them.

But you are spot on.  I am a lot of fun.

"It is fun to have fun but you have to know how." - The Cat in the Hat

What good reason is there to believe a god exists?

(February 22, 2018 at 8:38 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Because in one scenario they (sic) fetus was born . And killing can be justified. And it's not murder murder is unlawful .


Not his body his say ends at ejaculation . After that he can go fuck himself 

Quote:Why do capable and loving grandparents, four of them, have no "choice" in this matter of butchering an innocent unborn grandchild?

Not their bodies 

Quote:The answer is not blowing in the wind.  The answer is that Norma McCorvey lied when she claimed to have been raped.  She was not, and therefore the decision in Roe v. Wade was based on falsified testimony and it should be overturned summarily.

It's irrelevant even if she did lie. The law stands on it's (sic) merit . 


If by intolerant you mean we don't pout (sic) up with sanctimonious bigots who cloak their bullshit in religious wrapping paper. And generally favour people who don't have these unfortunate qualities then yes yes we are .

1.  The baby being aborted is not the body of the murderous woman having it killed.  
2.  His "say" does not "end at ejaculation" if the woman has a baby. He pays child support for 18 years, notwithstanding your ignorant profanity.
3.   There IS no "merit" to a judicial decision when it is based on false testimony.

Don't you know anything?  Such cases are overturned often.

Quote:1.  The baby being aborted is not the body of the murderous woman having it killed.  

Yup but the events going on inside her body .So she gets the final say weather it stays inside her or not . 

Quote:2.  His "say" does not "end at ejaculation" if the woman has a baby. He pays child support for 18 years, notwithstanding your ignorant profanity.

Actually it does . He stuck his dick in and that's the end of his decision on the matter . As for child support as i already said if it's gotten to the point of child support .Then their is a child that needs support(it was not aborted )  and he should have to help support it. And no merely paying money is not equivalent to being pregnant. And i'll speak however i like .  

Quote:3.   There IS no "merit" to a judicial decision when it is based on false testimony.

Actually there is if it liberates woman and gives them autonomy . The justification goes beyond one case . 

Quote:Don't you know anything?  Such cases are overturned often.

Even if that's true it's of no consequence in this case .

(February 22, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: No system is foolproof.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43159509

Quote:Arizona couple charged with locking up adopted children

Quote:A couple in Arizona have been charged with locking up their adopted children for up to 12 hours at a time with only a bucket for a toilet.
Benito and Carol Gutierrez are accused of keeping the four children, aged between six and 12, locked in rooms with no light or food.
Police were alerted when one boy left the house in Tucson.
He entered a shop to call a relative, but an employee called police because of concerns about the boy's appearance.

Advice to anyone seeking an abortion:

Do not use abortion clinics which offer you a bucket for a toilet! 

I am a sick person, but if the religious maniacs have their way, you may actually have to make choices like that!

You can really tell people don't believe their own 'pro-life' bullshit when they resort to the "BUT FATHERS HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR KIDS! NOT FAIR!"

It's all about controlling women. If men could get pregnant instead, the 2nd amendment would be the right for men to have an abortion instead of guns.

And you can tell they don't care about kids at all from the way they don't care once the child is actually born. Like Carlin said, if you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're pre-school you're fucked. That's not to mention the lack of maternity and paternity leave mandated, cause you know they don't care about the mother (or the father). All they care is that their silly backwoods religion gets to say what people do with their bodies. It's why they're also against same sex marriages. Oh and let's not forget the lack of pre-natal care provided. So really they don't even care about the fetus. They just care about forcing a woman to have birth and 'live with the consequences'. (That they see children as nothing but consequences from having sex should tell you a lot. Then again the fact that their whole religion is predicated upon two people having three sons who manage to populate the earth should tell you all you need to know)

(February 22, 2018 at 7:30 pm)Starman Wrote:   Godless Leftists are notoriously intolerant,

Says the idiot who constantly insults anybody who disagrees with him.

Way to prove that you're full of shit.

(February 22, 2018 at 6:55 pm)Starman Wrote: The answer is not blowing in the wind.  The answer is that Norma McCorvey lied when she claimed to have been raped.  She was not, and therefore the decision in Roe v. Wade was based on falsified testimony and it should be overturned summarily.

Tell me how many kids have you adopted?

(February 22, 2018 at 7:30 pm)Starman Wrote: Probably not staying long.  Godless Leftists are notoriously intolerant, and ban virtually anyone who doesn't march in godless lockstep with them.

I'll just say that anyone who gets banned brought it upon themselves. Stick within the Rules, keep the noise down and try not to track shit all over the carpet and you can knock yourself out.

(February 22, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So we should abort children to keep the few bad adoptive parents from abusing them. Got it.

Or it could be that adoption isn't the sort of panacea to the problem of unwanted pregnancies that Pro-Lifers like to think it is, so keeping abortion a legal option is the best thing we can do until science manages to somehow direct evolution in such a way that the female body actually does "have ways to shut the whole thing down," and not just in the case of rape like Todd Akin suggested they already do (which they don't in the real world). And that's not happening anytime soon.