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Unemployment. Honest debate.
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RE: Unemployment. Honest debate.
August 30, 2011 at 4:41 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2011 at 4:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Exactly what we need to think about, outproducing the chinese in the plastic baubbles dept. Later, we can erect temples to our idiocy with them. Is it so absurd to demand that workers everywhere have a greater share in the profits of the business that would not exist without them? Again, the world didn't suddenly become poor, the money simply changed hands.
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 (August 30, 2011 at 4:35 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Do you even understand basic world economy? Yes, especially the parts you don't. (August 30, 2011 at 4:35 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: What part of "you cant compete with a dollar a day pay" do you not understand? The part that says why you shouldn't starve if you can't compete.
Perhaps we're beyond the model of competition that has failed 99.9% of everything that has ever lived? A little cooperation would be refreshing, wouldn't it?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
  Quote:The part that says why you shouldn't starve if you can't compete. You need to ask Marie Antoinette how that model you are espousing worked out, Chuck. ![[Image: guillotine.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.guillotine.nl%2Fpicts%2Fguillotine.gif)
RE: Unemployment. Honest debate.
August 30, 2011 at 5:00 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2011 at 5:14 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(August 30, 2011 at 4:41 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Exactly what we need to think about, outproducing the chinese in the plastic baubbles dept. Later, we can erect temples to our idiocy with them. Is it so absurd to demand that workers everywhere have a greater share in the profits of the business that would not exist without them? Again, the world didn't suddenly become poor, the money simply changed hands. Who said we have to compete with the Chinese baubble for baubble? It's precisely not the baubbles but things which we really could add more value in proportion to our greater salary that we should concentrate. Let the Chinese make baubbles, we should find something we make 5 times better than they do if our worker cost 4 times as much. This is exactly why we should outsource. If we don't outsource, all we are doing is to subsidize American labors for getting paid more, while producing less. Cooperation might seem like a cushy, foresight obscuring way out, but in the long run, no economy can long prosper by costing more to produce less. And to sustain the ability to produce more for unit cost, this efficiency has to penetrate pretty thoroughly throughout the economy, down to the minimum wage earners.  RE: Unemployment. Honest debate.
August 30, 2011 at 5:05 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2011 at 5:10 pm by paintpooper.)
Here is a good question.
Is there currently enough resources to clothe feed and give every human the basic necessity's of life? Because currently that is not happening. Once we know the answer to that question we can develop ways to spread these resources to benefit all humans. I will justify my thinking by saying that, I did not choose to be born in the US, I did not choose to have good parents, I did not choose to be a male, I did not choose to be white. Ahh but religion is a great way to artificially make yourself better than someone else!!!! When in reality we are all the exact same, besides superficial differences. So how can I hold any of these things against anyone else? "...the illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world." - Carl Sagan RE: Unemployment. Honest debate.
August 30, 2011 at 5:11 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2011 at 5:13 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(August 30, 2011 at 5:05 pm)paintpooper Wrote: Here is a good question. What is basic necessity? Biologically, the bare minimum needed to keep you alive just long enough to produce one set of offsprings that would live to reproductive age suffices. Of course some Americans think having 2 cars, a dog, a washing machine, a microwave and 150 satellite TV channels as unspeakable privation unfit for humans to experience. RE: Unemployment. Honest debate.
August 30, 2011 at 5:24 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2011 at 5:26 pm by paintpooper.)
(August 30, 2011 at 5:11 pm)Chuck Wrote:(August 30, 2011 at 5:05 pm)paintpooper Wrote: Here is a good question. Well currently there are many many people going hungry and dieing of starvation as children. So I think starting at at least feeding the entire population would be a start? They can't even make it to reproduction age. And do they have to give up their 150 channels for that to happen? I don't know. This is what I'm striving to find out. Also the dog thing is an interesting point.... do we Americans spend enough on our "dogs" and animals, where if we didn't it would allow the survival of many other humans. "...the illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world." - Carl Sagan |
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