(April 1, 2018 at 4:42 pm)Die Atheistin Wrote: I've heard some people say that you can either believe that there is a God or that there is no God. Can't they comprehend the idea of the lack of faith? Or are they unwilling to accept it?

I think you just answered your own question.

We understand it, we just observe sheer dishonesty with the stance. Anything but neutral regarding the question of God's existence.

(April 1, 2018 at 7:33 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: We understand it, we just observe sheer dishonesty with the stance. Anything but neutral regarding the question of God's existence.

Just like everyone should be neutral about the question of Merlin's existence? Or fairies? Or leprechauns?

There's undecided, but with varying degrees of acceptance of the question. Neutral suggests that you should attribute it a 50/50 chance of god being in existence.
My intuition about reality, informed as it is by science, leans me to consider that chance as very far from 50/50, but I still allow it the benefit of the doubt.

(April 1, 2018 at 7:51 pm)pocaracas Wrote:

(April 1, 2018 at 7:33 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: We understand it, we just observe sheer dishonesty with the stance.  Anything but neutral regarding the question of God's existence.

Just like everyone should be neutral about the question of Merlin's existence? Or fairies? Or leprechauns?

There's undecided, but with varying degrees of acceptance of the question. Neutral suggests that you should attribute it a 50/50 chance of god being in existence.
My intuition about reality, informed as it is by science, leans me to consider that chance as very far from 50/50, but I still allow it the benefit of the doubt.

Except your intuition is conjecture created by desires and reaffirmed by conjecture, and really nothing past that circular reasoning.

(April 1, 2018 at 7:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Except your intuition is conjecture created by desires and reaffirmed by conjecture, and really nothing past that circular reasoning.

I think the forum admin should reconsider MK's request to have his account deleted. Here is a mind in terminal decline and no amount of onboard help will help him, he needs professionals. Let him go for his own sake.

MK's an adult. If he really wanted, he could log out.

I think he has found a sense of community here he is unwilling to fully embrace despite knowing that anything in relation to religion is hooey. He stays for the familiarity.

Some people just can't comprehend facts.

It has to be one way or the other. For them, there are no grey areas.

(April 1, 2018 at 7:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(April 1, 2018 at 7:51 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Just like everyone should be neutral about the question of Merlin's existence? Or fairies? Or leprechauns?

There's undecided, but with varying degrees of acceptance of the question. Neutral suggests that you should attribute it a 50/50 chance of god being in existence.
My intuition about reality, informed as it is by science, leans me to consider that chance as very far from 50/50, but I still allow it the benefit of the doubt.

Except your intuition is conjecture created by desires and reaffirmed by conjecture, and really nothing past that circular reasoning.

Just like yours.
Just like the philosophers of old's.
Just like anyone's.

They don't understand the default position. They'd rather people guess at things than reserve judgement.

Quote:We understand it, we just observe sheer dishonesty with the stance. Anything but neutral regarding the question of God's existence.

No Theist has ever shown it to be dishonest . Merely inconvenient to the theistic agenda.

Quote:Except your intuition is conjecture created by desires and reaffirmed by conjecture, and really nothing past that circular reasoning.

Nope it's not conjecture and it's based on desire . It's a conclusion based solely on theism total failure to make a case or provide I lick of evidence for god.And the wholy reason based rejection (not emotions or feelings or wants as so many theists accuse us off)