(May 6, 2018 at 9:41 pm)Joods Wrote: Good for you. I like how you completely ignore the post I made defining Pantheism, which proves your claim of not being a theist, wrong. But do go on... continue to avoid that entirely.

I did not see your post. I am not glued to this thread like I was 20 hours ago. Why is everyone on this site a damn edgelord?

It isn't that hard to go back to the last spot you were at on any thread. That's what the arrow in front of all the thread titles are for.

Why are you suddenly so damn over sensitive? I am an internet stranger to you. Someone you'll most likely never meet in real life.
If you're going to get all worked up over one post I made giving my opinion of what I felt you were doing and called you out on, then how the hell do you survive in Mafia games? That's 99% mind fuckery. You must go insane when you're in the hot seat or being grilled or up for a lynch. Jfc I didn't insult you or call you any names. Sad, really.

(May 6, 2018 at 9:48 pm)Joods Wrote: It isn't that hard to go back to the last spot you were at on any thread. That's what the arrow in front of all the thread titles are for.

Why are you suddenly so damn over sensitive? I am an internet stranger to you. Someone you'll most likely never meet in real life.
If you're going to get all worked up over one post I made giving my opinion of what I felt you were doing and called you out on, then how the hell are do you survive in Mafia games? That's 99% mind fuckery. You must go insane when you're in the hot seat or being grilled or up for a lynch. Jfc I didn't insult you or call you any names. Sad, really.

I think you have no idea what you are talking about honesty. You are throwing all kinds of assumptions about me in this post which I am not going to discuss here.

Believe it or not, I am well suited to argue my own points, which you really have no desire to actually listen to. You act like having feelings is somehow a curse. News flash: you are also human.

This site is wearing very thin on me, not because of what the site represents, but because of the people that make up this site. I mean, all the people here claim foul when a christian gets upset and lashes out for being treated like shit, and then you guys have the audacity to tell that person they are out of line because they have said things that are less than acting like a saint. Talk about a double standard. If there is a morality in atheism, I don't see it.

(May 6, 2018 at 9:56 pm)Quick Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 9:48 pm)Joods Wrote: It isn't that hard to go back to the last spot you were at on any thread. That's what the arrow in front of all the thread titles are for.

Why are you suddenly so damn over sensitive? I am an internet stranger to you. Someone you'll most likely never meet in real life.
If you're going to get all worked up over one post I made giving my opinion of what I felt you were doing and called you out on, then how the hell are do you survive in Mafia games? That's 99% mind fuckery. You must go insane when you're in the hot seat or being grilled or up for a lynch. Jfc I didn't insult you or call you any names. Sad, really.

I think you have no idea what you are talking about honesty. You are throwing all kinds of assumptions about me in this post which I am not going to discuss here.

Believe it or not, I am well suited to argue my own points, which you really have no desire to actually listen to. You act like having feelings is somehow a curse. News flash: you are also human.

This site is wearing very thin on me, not because of what the site represents, but because of the people that make up this site. I mean, all the people here claim foul when a christian gets upset and lashes out for being treated like shit, and then you guys have the audacity to tell that person they are out of line because they have said things that are less than acting like a saint. Talk about a double standard. If there is a morality in atheism, I don't see it.

You done with that high horse now? Our groom would like to brush him down and get him fed.

(May 6, 2018 at 9:59 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 9:56 pm)Quick Wrote: I think you have no idea what you are talking about honesty. You are throwing all kinds of assumptions about me in this post which I am not going to discuss here.

Believe it or not, I am well suited to argue my own points, which you really have no desire to actually listen to. You act like having feelings is somehow a curse. News flash: you are also human.

This site is wearing very thin on me, not because of what the site represents, but because of the people that make up this site. I mean, all the people here claim foul when a christian gets upset and lashes out for being treated like shit, and then you guys have the audacity to tell that person they are out of line because they have said things that are less than acting like a saint. Talk about a double standard. If there is a morality in atheism, I don't see it.

You done with that high horse now? Our groom would like to brush him down and get him fed.

There is a difference from this site to almost every other site I have ever been on, and it's not good. This is my observation: It is a forum of a bunch people who on average as a group score the lowest in agreeableness from the Big 5 trait that I think I have ever seen.

Antagonistic is the word I would use to describe the people here.

(May 6, 2018 at 6:01 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Things are either designed or not.  DNA proves they are designed.  That's my point.

What undesigned thing can you point to for comparison?  To show us the difference that makes design demonstrable?  Additionally, why would it matter if dna were designed?

(May 6, 2018 at 10:10 pm)Quick Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 9:59 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: You done with that high horse now? Our groom would like to brush him down and get him fed.

There is a difference from this site to almost every other site I have ever been on, and it's not good. This is my observation: It is a forum of a bunch people who on average as a group score the lowest in agreeableness from the Big 5 trait that I think I have ever seen.

Antagonistic is the word I would use to describe the people here.

So, that would be a no? Please inform the grooms when you are.

So you know, we typically make change in the coin proffered here. If you find us antagonistic, there may well be a reason for it.

(May 6, 2018 at 9:56 pm)Quick Wrote: If there is a morality in atheism, I don't see it.

Atheism has no moral standards, individuals may but if you are looking for a set of moral values because someone says they are atheist then that is going to be fruitless search.

(May 6, 2018 at 6:01 pm)CDF47 Wrote: . . .
Things are either designed or not.  DNA proves they are designed.  That's my point.
. . .

Living things have designs. As humans we can look at the designs and recognise them. The design we can see can be explained in purely natural terms, without pre-planning having been involved. Multiplicities of trial and error by natural processes lead to the designs we see in nature. Evolution explains the apparency of design, and involves no god, nothing supernatural, and is well documented.

In evolution, new forms must necessarily be based on or derived from old forms. Because of this, not all designs arrived at by evolution, are optimal. Any solutions which evolution comes up with, merely have to be operational, and need not be optimal. Much of the design in nature is non-optimal, and indicative of a non-intelligent derivation.

Evidence of non-designed, or not pre-planned design, points to a no designer answer. Theological answers to poor design merely explain away such a thing. A lack of a designer explains the evidence of poor designs in nature. There is much documented evidence of poor design, which points a lack of intelligence in the source of the designs found.

(May 6, 2018 at 11:52 am)Quick Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 11:23 am)robvalue Wrote: Scientific method:



ID method: It looks designed / I can't believe this could happen without being designed, therefor it's designed.

It tells us nothing, explains nothing, has no practical applications, includes no testable hypotheses, makes no predictions and so isn't science. It's an abandonment of science for the argument from ignorance.

Jung has some interesting thoughts on this, but I honestly don't think you want to hear them.

What exactly was this post, if not antagonistic?