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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 7, 2018 at 12:00 pm
Er..so rock is not designed...but is designed?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 7, 2018 at 12:06 pm
(May 6, 2018 at 2:53 pm)Quick Wrote:
(May 6, 2018 at 5:17 am)Quick Wrote: I don't see anything definitive here that says people can rid themselves of biases. What I see here is that the only thing that really happens is that their bias changes from one PoV to another. We are creatures with a limited grasp of reality. We can only take in so much information because we have not evolved to the point where we can take in all information from our surroundings. And ironically enough, the reason I know people have biases is because I have rid myself of a lot of them. This doesn't mean that I am not otherwise predisposed to bias, however, only that the biases I hold have changed. I might consider changing my mind if you could provide evidence for ridding oneself of bias via brain scan.

Quoting this to show it was my post that got caught in the spam filter and I am not actually crazy. Shifty <- joke
(May 6, 2018 at 2:48 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: If there is a designer he's inept, incompetent and/or corrupt.

Either way, not worth worshipping or even acknowledging.

What makes you say that? I see the claim. How do you back it up?

George W Bush nearly choked to death eating a pretzel. Have you ever seen the route the laryngeal nerve takes?

These are just a tiny sample of the many evidences that show if life was designed the designer was incompetent.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 7, 2018 at 12:32 pm (This post was last modified: May 7, 2018 at 12:38 pm by CDF47.)
(May 7, 2018 at 12:06 pm)Wololo Wrote:
(May 6, 2018 at 2:53 pm)Quick Wrote: Quoting this to show it was my post that got caught in the spam filter and I am not actually crazy. Shifty <- joke

What makes you say that? I see the claim. How do you back it up?

George W Bush nearly choked to death eating a pretzel. Have you ever seen the route the laryngeal nerve takes?

These are just a tiny sample of the many evidences that show if life was designed the designer was incompetent.

It is a fallen world as stated in the Bible.  The intent of the design is not perfection. Death is part of the design. There is digital code in DNA which proves design.
(May 7, 2018 at 12:00 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Er..so rock is not designed...but is designed?

Strawman.  I said the entire universe is designed.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 7, 2018 at 12:38 pm (This post was last modified: May 7, 2018 at 12:38 pm by FatAndFaithless.)
(May 7, 2018 at 12:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 7, 2018 at 12:00 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Er..so rock is not designed...but is designed?

Strawman.  I said the entire universe is designed.

You literally said "A rock is not designed, although in the grand scheme of things, since the entire universe is designed, it too is designed."  Why would you start with "a rock is not designed", if in fact everything is designed? And how do you identify design if you have nothing to compare it to?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 7, 2018 at 12:42 pm
Quote:Death is part of the design.

Is it?  Seems to me that your "god" looked out upon his efforts and pronounced it "good" before Eve bit the apple.  So choking to death accidentally was a part of your inept god's grand design from the start, huh?

So tell me, do you think the Garden of Eden story is literally true?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 7, 2018 at 1:13 pm
(May 7, 2018 at 12:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It is a fallen world as stated in the Bible.  The intent of the design is not perfection.  Death is part of the design.  There is digital code in DNA which proves design.

Oops, no god/designer then. Immortal cell lines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortalised_cell_line
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 7, 2018 at 1:40 pm
(May 7, 2018 at 11:25 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 6, 2018 at 8:45 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: And it's fantasy delusion for the win!

No, atheism hasn't won this debate.
(May 6, 2018 at 10:12 pm)Khemikal Wrote: What undesigned thing can you point to for comparison?  To show us the difference that makes design demonstrable?  Additionally, why would it matter if dna were designed?

DNA is designed which means there is a Designer.  We then look at the universe and realize it too is designed.  From there it is time to turn to theology for answers.
(May 6, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Magilla Wrote: Living things have designs. As humans we can look at the designs and recognise them. The design we can see can be explained in purely natural terms, without pre-planning having been involved. Multiplicities of trial and error by natural processes lead to the designs we see in nature. Evolution explains the apparency of design, and involves no god, nothing supernatural, and is well documented.

In evolution, new forms must necessarily be based on or derived from old forms. Because of this, not all designs arrived at by evolution, are optimal. Any solutions which evolution comes up with, merely have to be operational, and need not be optimal. Much of the design in nature is non-optimal, and indicative of a non-intelligent derivation.

Evidence of non-designed, or not pre-planned design, points to a no designer answer. Theological answers to poor design merely explain away such a thing. A lack of a designer explains the evidence of poor designs in nature. There is much documented evidence of poor design, which points a lack of intelligence in the source of the designs found.

A highly sophisticated digital code was found in DNA.  It's designed by a Designer.

How did this designer do the designing?
What was the procedure?
Where is your evidence for this procedure?
What are tools used by the designer and what is your evidence for those tools?
How long does it take for a design?

And given these designs why are there stupid ones?

Why do whales have lungs if they were designed?

etc etc et bloody cetera.

What you have failed to do is say anything other than you don't understand something, therefore god.



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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 7, 2018 at 1:55 pm
(May 7, 2018 at 11:55 am)CDF47 Wrote: A rock is not designed, although in the grand scheme of things, since the entire universe is designed, it too is designed.
Okay, rocks are out, something else?  DNA and rocks are both designed..so, let;s come up with some third thing to compare -those- two things too...we'll see that dna and rocks are similar to each other in a way that this third thing x is different from them both.  


Set one, the designed set
DNA, Rocks

Set two, the undesigned set
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 7, 2018 at 1:58 pm (This post was last modified: May 7, 2018 at 2:00 pm by Amarok.)
Quote:A rock is not designed, although in the grand scheme of things, since the entire universe is designed, it too is designed.
Excuses excuses
Quote:A highly sophisticated digital code was found in DNA.  It's designed by a Designer.
So you repeat without a lick of evidence .
Quote:Things are either designed or not and DNA proves they are designed
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 7, 2018 at 2:00 pm
(May 7, 2018 at 12:00 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Er..so rock is not designed...but is designed?

Just put it through here and call it a day. Facts are facts and that guy is as dishonest as they come. He wouldn't know fact from fiction if someone showed him verifiable proof. 

Oh wait. That's been done already. 

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