(May 18, 2018 at 12:10 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(May 17, 2018 at 6:21 am)Hammy Wrote: Starting to think Schopenhauer said this best as he did many other things:

 Why Hammy he is as ignorant and illogical as almost every  atheist I've ever known. He can't even understand the creation story in it's presented order. You need to pick people with some intelligence to quote.

GC

LMAO he's one of the smartest people of all time! He came up with his own interpretation of evolution before biological evolution through natural selection was around and discovered by Darwin and he was a big influence on, among others, Friedrich Nietzsche, Richard Wagner, Leo Tolstoy, Ludwig Wittgenstein, Erwin Schrödinger, Karl Heinrich Ulrichs, Otto Rank, Gustav Mahler, Joseph Campbell, Albert Einstein, Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, Thomas Mann, Émile Zola, George Bernard Shaw, Jorge Luis Borges and Samuel Beckett.

The creation story in its 'correct order'? You are aware that there are two contradictory creation stories two pages apart in the Bible, yes?

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(May 19, 2018 at 2:53 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(May 18, 2018 at 12:10 am)Godscreated Wrote:  No it is you who have demonstrated you are the a.., not me. Anyone who can condemn people who want to do something for another and let that other know they care by telling them then there is little to say for that person other than they are most selfish.

I agree with you for once GC. Maybe I have misjudged you.

I shall pray to Satan, the god of critical thinking skills to give you reason to question your faith.

Want me to upload a video of me doing it?

I participated in satantic rituals as a kid, for fun. It never did me any harm.

I guess you're right about Satan being the God of critical thinking! I'm very fucking smart! Almost as smart as I'm modest!

My question "Why does god only know what the writers of the Bible know?" has been criticized as being too broad in scope. CL says god is not concerned with science. Yet we see a primitive attempt at medicine in Leviticus.

In Leviticus 14 God teaches Moses how to cure skin diseases:

14 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
2 This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:
3 And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper;
4 Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:
5 And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water:
6 As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water:
7 And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.

So, cheap magic tricks with no insight into microbiology. No advice about hand washing or boiling water before drinking it. Just more innocent animals sacrificed to a deity that savored the smell of burning flesh. The god of Moses only knew what "Moses" knew.

I was just thinking about my own participation. What are my goals? Primarily, I want people to think. I don't want them to simply agree with me, about anything. If they do happen to agree after thinking, then great. If not, no problem, I just appreciating them taking the time to consider.

So I'm not ever posting with the intention of trying to "take away people's religion". This is all probably pretty obvious to most people anyway, but I thought I'd mention it. I was considering the moral implications of my posts (or any atheists) happening to cause someone to see through their religion and abandon it. On the whole, I'd expect they'd be better off and happier, excluding the reactions they might get from religious folk around them.

But suppose they weren't? I guess that's something we can never know. Could we burst someone's bubble, leaving them desperate to get back inside it but being unable?

I think there's several defences here though. Firstly, the theists are choosing to come to an atheist forum. They can't realistically expect not to face questions here. Secondly, they are choosing to read what we write. And thirdly, all we can ultimately do is cause them to think, it's not like we could just "take away their religion" even if we wanted to. If it all unravels after them giving it some thought, then obviously it was on shaky ground, and part of them was ready for this possibility just by coming here (excluding the entirely cultish preaching types who aren't here to listen to anyone else in any serious way).

(May 19, 2018 at 6:39 am)Hammy Wrote:

(May 18, 2018 at 12:10 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Why Hammy he is as ignorant and illogical as almost every  atheist I've ever known. He can't even understand the creation story in it's presented order. You need to pick people with some intelligence to quote.

GC

The creation story in its 'correct order'? You are aware that there are two contradictory creation stories two pages apart in the Bible, yes?

 Am I aware now that's funny, of coarse I'm not aware of two different creation stories. Genesis 2 is giving more information about Genesis 1. You must believe that Christians are really stupid in that you believe we can't see two different stories. Well it is not the Christians who are stupid, we reason rather well.

GC

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(May 19, 2018 at 7:59 am)chimp3 Wrote: My question "Why does god only know what the writers of the Bible know?" has been criticized as being too broad in scope. CL says god is not concerned with science. Yet we see a primitive attempt at medicine in Leviticus.

In Leviticus 14 God teaches Moses how to cure skin diseases:

14 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
2 This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:
3 And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper;
4 Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:
5 And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water:
6 As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water:
7 And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.

So, cheap magic tricks with no insight into microbiology. No advice about hand washing or boiling water before drinking it. Just more innocent animals sacrificed to a deity that savored the smell of burning flesh. The god of Moses only knew what "Moses" knew.

 The leper is already healed before the cleansing ceremony, your reading skills lack much and your desire should be to improve them.

GC

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(May 19, 2018 at 2:53 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(May 18, 2018 at 12:10 am)Godscreated Wrote:  No it is you who have demonstrated you are the a.., not me. Anyone who can condemn people who want to do something for another and let that other know they care by telling them then there is little to say for that person other than they are most selfish.

I agree with you for once GC. Maybe I have misjudged you.

I shall pray to Satan, the god of critical thinking skills to give you reason to question your faith.

Want me to upload a video of me doing it?

I would rather not see you destroy your life in such a manner. It want do any good because Satan has no power over me, I can't say the same for you  though.

GC

Lalala...

Wow, it goes Satan < GC < God.

Actually, since Satan seems to have quite a lot held over God, given his refusal to remove his powers, I suppose it’s Satan < God < GC.

Either way, I don’t think I’ll bother with the satanic rituals anymore. He’s clearly no threat to anyone.

(May 19, 2018 at 10:50 am)Godscreated Wrote:

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(May 19, 2018 at 7:59 am)chimp3 Wrote: My question "Why does god only know what the writers of the Bible know?" has been criticized as being too broad in scope. CL says god is not concerned with science. Yet we see a primitive attempt at medicine in Leviticus.

In Leviticus 14 God teaches Moses how to cure skin diseases:

14 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
2 This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:
3 And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper;
4 Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:
5 And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water:
6 As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water:
7 And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.

So, cheap magic tricks with no insight into microbiology. No advice about hand washing or boiling water before drinking it. Just more innocent animals sacrificed to a deity that savored the smell of burning flesh. The god of Moses only knew what "Moses" knew.

 The leper is already healed before the cleansing ceremony, your reading skills lack much and your desire should be to improve them.

Keep reading to Verse 33. More ridiculousness and magic without any insight into microbiology.

(May 19, 2018 at 10:50 am)Godscreated Wrote:

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(May 19, 2018 at 2:53 am)Mathilda Wrote: I agree with you for once GC. Maybe I have misjudged you.

I shall pray to Satan, the god of critical thinking skills to give you reason to question your faith.

Want me to upload a video of me doing it?

I would rather not see you destroy your life in such a manner. It want do any good because Satan has no power over me, I can't say the same for you  though.

GC

Maybe this will help get the point across that you're being an ass. 

(May 19, 2018 at 10:50 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(May 19, 2018 at 2:53 am)Mathilda Wrote: I agree with you for once GC. Maybe I have misjudged you.

I shall pray to Satan, the god of critical thinking skills to give you reason to question your faith.

Want me to upload a video of me doing it?

I would rather not see you destroy your life in such a manner. It want do any good because Satan has no power over me, I can't say the same for you  though.

Don't worry, like praying to your god it won't actually do anything other than vibrate some air molecules in the room. It's no different to acting or a live action role playing game.

But it's the thought that counts eh?

Wouldn't be too hard to do. Google Satanic rituals. Perform the ritual while filming. Upload to youtube and link to it from here. No different to doing a vlog really.

(May 19, 2018 at 4:11 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(May 19, 2018 at 10:50 am)Godscreated Wrote:

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I would rather not see you destroy your life in such a manner. It want do any good because Satan has no power over me, I can't say the same for you  though.

GC

Maybe this will help get the point across that you're being an ass. 

Hey! It's Beetlejuice!....Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!