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Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 22, 2018 at 10:21 pm
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2018 at 10:22 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(May 22, 2018 at 8:16 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: A kudos can be interpreted multiple ways, Ham. For instance, when someone posts their first thread, I always make it a point to kudos them... even if their post argues the watchmaker argument. Sometimes I kudos people because I agree with them, but there are a plethora of other reasons I might do it. Keeping my own varied motivations in mind, I try not to read too much into people's kudos. Yeah A kudos doesn't necessarily mean I agree with everything the post said. In that thread in particular, I'm kudosing everyone's responses as a way to show acknowledgement, that I have read and appreciated their response and participation in the debate. With that being said, what Neo said isn't incorrect, technically. Death itself has no greater meaning if nothing comes afterwards. That doesnt mean you cant die for an honorable cause, like soldiers in battle.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
Nope death is closure of life it creates finality . Every story has an end . Why should not life ?
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 22, 2018 at 11:05 pm
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2018 at 11:05 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 22, 2018 at 10:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: With that being said, what Neo said isn't incorrect, technically. Death itself has no greater meaning if nothing comes afterwards. But, technically, he didn't just speak of no meaningful death. He spoke of no meaningful death entailing no meaningful life. Which makes no sense to me. The journey is the meaningful part. The idea that if there's no meaning at the end of it all then there is no meaningful life (life being the part when you're actually alive to experience meaning) makes zero sense.
Some people think that a life with no god-meaning is the same thing as a life with no meaning. Unless theres punch and pie at the end, you may as well just stay in bed and wait to die.
: shrugs :
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 23, 2018 at 12:52 am
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2018 at 12:56 am by Godscreated.)
(May 22, 2018 at 7:29 pm)chimp3 Wrote:(May 21, 2018 at 11:37 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Your avoidance sticks out like a sore thumb, you want to criticize the Bible yet you do not want to even consider what it actually says. That to me is a fear of the scriptures a healthy thing as long as you respond positively to them. There is only one God and He is not part of those religions. None of the gods of those religions has ever tried to show me anything at all. That being said they are and always will be false. GC (May 22, 2018 at 4:55 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:(May 17, 2018 at 12:21 am)Godscreated Wrote: You find that a person cares enough for you to take time out of their life to do something for you is offensive? Correct, it is doing something for others and it can and is for ones self also. So what's your point, you seem to be agreeing with me. What lack of action, praying for others is an action, every day all the time. The Church does more for the poor than any other entity in the world. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
If one of them kicked you in the ass you would still pretend that your bullshit was true, G-C. You're a bullshit artist.
(May 22, 2018 at 6:03 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Critters and birds formed AFTER Adam: That's not what the verse says and if you really believe it does then you are not very intelligent. It says God did this just as He did with Adam, it doesn't refer to a specific time for either, the whole point to the verse is to show man's intelligence over that of the animals. vorlon13 Wrote:Critters and fowl formed BEFORE Adam and Eve: This is the correct order as given to us by God, the other verses give some extra detail but like I said it was to show man's intelligence over the animals and the dominion God would give man over the animals. It's beyond me how people can claim to be so smart yet miss something as simple as this, truly astounding it is. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(May 23, 2018 at 12:52 am)Godscreated Wrote: There is only one God and He is not part of those religions. None of the gods of those religions has ever tried to show me anything at all. That being said they are and always will be false. You should understand why I don;t believe in your silly religion, then. Tell god to show me something next time you two talk. Otherwise, I can only conclude that you'll always be false.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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