(May 29, 2018 at 1:16 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: What in the world makes you think people are picking on Islam? I'd say christianity gets the majority of the crap on this site.

Although here is a difference:

Islamic countries actually stone people to death still.

You haven't see the American invasion of Iraq; right?
Abu Ghuraib prison? the racist torture us Muslims endured ? our life as Muslims being cheaper than sand? media picking on us, making fun of our customs, struggle and pain?

Nobody stone people to death. It is not practiced anywhere, stop taking your info from cheap websites and the cheap magazines that Trump and his like used to get elected.

The biggest terrorists in the world are american pilots, British front soldiers who invaded Iraq.

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(May 29, 2018 at 1:16 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

MysticKnight Wrote:If there is any contradictions in Quran, I will stop believing in it.

No, you'll just find an ad hoc explanation for any apparent contradictions.

I think it's 2 lines at most; no need for huge ad-hocs algorithms.

(May 29, 2018 at 1:11 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(May 27, 2018 at 8:38 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Wow, what long walls of text.  
I have the same problem with Islam that I have with any other religion - the idea that deities exist and the use of religion to brainwash and control others.

Sadly to find out the context of a verse you have to quote the verses behind it.
I mean come on: you read books before.Reading page 10 alone is so different from reading a page by page until page 10.

I'm quite capable of reading.  I'm just not interested.  It's more text about imaginary friends and how we should treat them and how the con-artists say humans should behave.  Irrelevant.

(May 29, 2018 at 1:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

AtlasS33 Wrote:My post wasn't speaking about "who is really responsible for 9/11 ? "
It was speaking about "the origins of the attackers".

You said that you hate Muslims because of 9/11, I replied to you with that "people who did the attacks" were trained and armed by the U.S in the first place; in other words "The White House reaped what it sowed", and you didn't know that because you were "too drunk on propaganda".

In other words; read real history.

You have a point about reaping what we sow, but the hijackers were grown-ups with full agency who chose to use their training to attack the USA. In other words, who trained someone does not excuse them from responsibility for their actions.

You are right. But wasn't the U.S warned a lot before entering the Afghani swamp?
It's the dead civilians of Afghanistan haunting the U.S; that's what messed up foreign policies do to you. The American government gambled with the lives of its people when it agreed to that destructive foreign policy.

The civilians were the poor victims of all of this.
The terrorists who did the attacks are criminals who deserve execution.
But nothing angers me more than the hypocrite that talks about the dead civilians and the Muslim terrorists and forget the messed up, dirty game the U.S played. It was a filthy game, and all of it because of the Yankee arrogance against the Reds.

Now; the proxies of the past haunt not just america; but the whole Middle East too.

(May 29, 2018 at 4:52 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(May 29, 2018 at 1:16 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: What in the world makes you think people are picking on Islam? I'd say christianity gets the majority of the crap on this site.

Although here is a difference:

Islamic countries actually stone people to death still.

You haven't see the American invasion of Iraq; right?
Abu Ghuraib prison? the racist torture us Muslims endured ? our life as Muslims being cheaper than sand? media picking on us, making fun of our customs, struggle and pain?

Nobody stone people to death. It is not practiced anywhere, stop taking your info from cheap websites and the cheap magazines that Trump and his like used to get elected.

The biggest terrorists in the world are american pilots, British front soldiers who invaded Iraq.

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(May 29, 2018 at 1:16 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: No, you'll just find an ad hoc explanation for any apparent contradictions.

I think it's 2 lines at most; no need for huge ad-hocs algorithms.

That is a flat out lie and you know it.

Stoning is still practiced to this day in islamic states. Want citations? Sure I have plenty, but they are unnecessary because you already know your scumbag superstition demands and gets such barbarism when given the power to do so. Islam is simply an religion driven by irrational hatred of pretty much everything.

It is a testament to the savagery of islam that such executions are still happening in the 21st century.

As is often quoted, good men do good things and evil men do evil things, but it takes religion to make good men do evil things.

Oh and if any christians are feeling all smug, Rwanda. You bastards.

I guess my husband is a terrorist lol

The only reason why I don't constantly complain about ME and crimes of US is because I don't have a plan of action for people to take to reduce or stop it at the moment.

But I won't forever sit in silence and watch the oppressors oppress. I just need to learn about economy, the world, and history, and other skills, and learn about the structure of power today.

Otherwise, we can complain till the cows come home. It won't change anything.

(May 29, 2018 at 4:58 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(May 29, 2018 at 1:11 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Sadly to find out the context of a verse you have to quote the verses behind it.
I mean come on: you read books before.Reading page 10 alone is so different from reading a page by page until page 10.

I'm quite capable of reading.  I'm just not interested.  It's more text about imaginary friends and how we should treat them and how the con-artists say humans should behave.  Irrelevant.

Then, why do you discuss if you're not even interested?
Even if we're speaking about a fairy-tale for 6 years old kids; taking its events out of context or making up pages that don't exist in it, is considered bias, dishonesty and lying. I expect the accusations to live up to the truth.

If somebody is not interested; it's up to them; but the tower of text I posted was intended to somebody else who cherry picked and took a story out of context.

(May 29, 2018 at 5:20 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Then, why do you discuss if you're not even interested?

Because you and your ilk want to force your brand of crackpottery on everyone else. By force.

(May 29, 2018 at 5:28 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 29, 2018 at 5:20 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Then, why do you discuss if you're not even interested?

Because you and your ilk want to force your brand of crackpottery on everyone else. By force.

Don't make a drama out of a discussion in a discussion forum; ilk.

(May 29, 2018 at 5:36 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(May 29, 2018 at 5:28 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Because you and your ilk want to force your brand of crackpottery on everyone else. By force.

Don't make a drama out of a discussion in a discussion forum; ilk.

No drama. I simply oppose all superstitious nonsense in all of it's guises. Evil only triumphs if good people stand to one side and do nothing.