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What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 29, 2018 at 6:15 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(May 29, 2018 at 6:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The American army is a terrorist organization, and pilots especially were a crucial part in exporting terrorism and death to the world, from Japan to Iraq, the reign of terror of American bombs marked this century with blood and death.

Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah...d_killings

No offense; but without the infamous reputation of the U.S army; enemies would not fear it that much.
It's a terrorist organization.

https://web.archive.org/web/201310230517...mm-premium

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6288156.stm

Shall I continue?

(May 29, 2018 at 6:05 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: "No offense but your husband is a terrorist."

Got it. Lol.

Honestly, that was pretty offensive. Were I you, I would be up in arms over such a slur. Fair play for keeping your cool, I would have been through the screen with a fist if such was hurled at me or mine.

It's ok. I take comfort in knowing he's completely wrong.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 29, 2018 at 6:32 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(May 29, 2018 at 5:48 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: If you can't see how it can apply, you have no defense against falling for it.

Usually ad hoc makes an explanation he himself doesn't believe in to argue a point in a fantasy what if conversation just for the sake of argument.

But in this case, I would not believe in explanation of Quran that I don't believe myself.

Your post has a certain ferrous component.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 29, 2018 at 6:11 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(May 29, 2018 at 5:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The only reason why I don't constantly complain about ME and crimes of US is because I don't have a plan of action for people to take to reduce or stop it at the moment.

But I won't forever sit in silence and watch the oppressors oppress.  I just need to learn about economy, the world, and history, and other skills, and learn about the structure of power today.

Otherwise, we can complain till the cows come home. It won't change anything.

No. There's a river of blood in the Middle East, the killing is carried out by the dictators ruling, and their allies. It's very insulting to have a country like Israel made and constructed out of the blue to satisfy a biblical prophecy, it's more sad to see Palestinian people who lost their homes living like slaves without passports or any papers across the Middle East.

It's spreading awareness. It's not at all complaining.
Cows?

We been complaining and it's creating is angry terrorists making life worse for us.

We need to come up with a game plan that can be achievable and actually bring stability, prosperity, freedom, and peace to the middle-east.

I am going to study and get skills to help achieve that.

As for US, they nuked two cities in Japan and this generation brainwashed to believe it's a righteous act, both the threat to nuke their whole country and the actual two nuking of the two cities.

The question, is how do we change their mindset.

Simply calling them evil won't work.

I am looking to go for a social democratic anarchy as the way to govern ourselves. Where this was unlikely achievable in the past, with technology today, we can achieve this.

But I need to study and come with a real structure that can be implement.

Inshallah brother, we all do what we can.

I don't find complaining about it works anymore and the people don't know what to do with information these days.

Mass-awareness doesn't cause people to do anything.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 29, 2018 at 5:54 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
AtlasS33 Wrote:I think it's 2 lines at most; no need for huge ad-hocs algorithms.

Does Allah forgive all who seek his forgiveness?

Yes.

(May 29, 2018 at 6:01 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(May 27, 2018 at 10:35 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: What is the source of your problems with Islam?

Let's be honest: worldwide there are so many views that make Islam stand back in the queue of strong sentences.

Let's take the Christian Bible: the old testament advocates pedophilia, slavery, and mass murder.
The Jewish Talmud is even more violent, with sentences that include the pouring of molten lead into the mouth of the condemned:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#Judaism

And execution for grand treason for deserters of the army in secular countries right before 80 years only.

Yes, those books are  equally as horrible as the Quran. Tu quo que fallacy much?

"Other religious texts are just as violent as mine! So there!".

How does that make your religious text good?

Here's the difference between modern Christianity and Judaism (for the most part) compared to Modern Islam, though. Modern Jews and Christians, with few notable exceptions, no longer carry out the horrible actions in their books. Muslims do

From a Pew study in 2013, 350 MILLION Muslims support violent Jihad. Even though the vast majority of Muslims do not, that is still a lot of extremists that can get ahold of weapons.

Quote:Don't you think that it's quite hypocritical to leave all of that aside, ignore it, and cherry pick the Quran only?
What is the source of your problems with Islam? This is a real question, not sarcastic.

-Is it the brown skin of Arabs?
-Is it the heritage of Arabs?
-Is it xenophobia + Islamophobia?

Because I truly fail to see why the media -and so many biased people- bash Islam for the cultural actions of Middle Eastern people, and ignore in a very rude way the Jewish & Christian insane texts which live up to be worthy of a doctrine for a torture chamber.

None of those reasons describe my position.

My dislike for Islam (and Judaism, Christianity and Hinduism) is that it is a horrible operating system to be running on human minds. It has so many bugs built in, that Muslims believe are features.

It is great that Christianity and Judaism have been dragged, kicking and screaming the entire way, into modernity. Islam, in many parts of the world, is still living in the 7th century.

What is the horrible part in the Quran? I want verses that are horrible to you.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 29, 2018 at 6:42 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(May 29, 2018 at 5:54 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Does Allah forgive all who seek his forgiveness?

Yes.

A better answer, by his terms and conditions, a person sincerely turns to him and abandons their evil, he forgives.

Some verses emphasize that God is forgiving for who he repents but includes getting guided as a condition, that is if a person continues in misguidance, their words of asking forgiveness is meaningless.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 29, 2018 at 6:05 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: "No offense but your husband is a terrorist."

Got it. Lol.

I am who I am, because of what I believe. If somebody is bombing civilians; I will say that they are bombing civilians. No offense.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 29, 2018 at 6:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: We been complaining and it's creating is angry terrorists making life worse for us.

We need to come up with a game plan that can be achievable and actually bring stability, prosperity, freedom, and peace to the middle-east.

I am going to study and get skills to help achieve that.



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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
All fun and games till...

I swear I am rest and peace that Quran has promised God delivers the believers from the oppressors as he did in the past, he destroys the Oppressors and saves the oppressed believers.

We got to believe in God, all we got to do is keep striving for the truth, help unite people on it, because if Muslims sincerely turn to God and Worship him sincerely, and abandon the idols that have divided us and shattered our unity and hide the means to our unity, God will respond to us as he did in the past to believers when they turned to him sincerely - when they were harmed and oppressed.

Things will get tough, and Mohammad came to destroy all Pharaohs and Oppressors and free the world from them, and their army and group, and the shadow government(s) that have ruled the world for too long.

Just be patient and persevere Atlas, keep reading Quran and inshallah, soon enough it's wonders will unfold and the oppressed will rally behind it.

As for the oppressors and rich and those who live in ease, don't expect anything from them except a few, they might choose the right side, but I would not hold my breath for it.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 29, 2018 at 6:15 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(May 29, 2018 at 6:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The American army is a terrorist organization, and pilots especially were a crucial part in exporting terrorism and death to the world, from Japan to Iraq, the reign of terror of American bombs marked this century with blood and death.

Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah...d_killings

No offense; but without the infamous reputation of the U.S army; enemies would not fear it that much.
It's a terrorist organization.

https://web.archive.org/web/201310230517...mm-premium

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6288156.stm

Shall I continue?

(May 29, 2018 at 6:05 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: "No offense but your husband is a terrorist."

Got it. Lol.

Honestly, that was pretty offensive. Were I you, I would be up in arms over such a slur. Fair play for keeping your cool, I would have been through the screen with a fist if such was hurled at me or mine.

Oh please continue !

When I blame the U.S; I'm blaming an institution.
You; on the other hand; are blaming a whole religion.

It's like me, blaming all democratic governments of the crimes of the U.S. So please continue.
And tell me the location of the Islamic central command, because I want to meet the grand Imam of that place and eat basboosa with them too !

As for what you considered an insult; I personally consider it a fact. The American army is a terrorist organization that used atomic bombs, and caused massacres and death upon so many, and stole the world's gold in the biggest economic scam in history, funded and aided terrorists, tortured and imprisoned lots of innocents, should I continue?

So consider it insulting and keep your head in the sand. I said the truth and I'm not ashamed of that.

(May 29, 2018 at 6:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(May 29, 2018 at 6:11 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: No. There's a river of blood in the Middle East, the killing is carried out by the dictators ruling, and their allies. It's very insulting to have a country like Israel made and constructed out of the blue to satisfy a biblical prophecy, it's more sad to see Palestinian people who lost their homes living like slaves without passports or any papers across the Middle East.

It's spreading awareness. It's not at all complaining.
Cows?

We been complaining and it's creating is angry terrorists making life worse for us.

We need to come up with a game plan that can be achievable and actually bring stability, prosperity, freedom, and peace to the middle-east.

I am going to study and get skills to help achieve that.

As for US, they nuked two cities in Japan and this generation brainwashed to believe it's a righteous act, both the threat to nuke their whole country and the actual two nuking of the two cities.

The question, is how do we change their mindset.

Simply calling them evil won't work.

I am looking to go for a social democratic anarchy as the way to govern ourselves. Where this was unlikely achievable in the past, with technology today, we can achieve this.

But I need to study and come with a real structure that can be implement.

Inshallah brother, we all do what we can.

I don't find complaining about it works anymore and the people don't know what to do with information these days.

Mass-awareness doesn't cause people to do anything.

Awareness is the candle in times of darkness. The Middle East is gone mentally; between the defeat of WW1, the establishment of Israel and the dictators sitting on the throats of its people, awareness is as precious as diamonds.

Awareness is punished by death in places like Saudi Arabia. Visit and see for yourself. Though worldwide, criticize Israel and millions will jump at your throat accusing you of Anti-Semitism.

Study, lots of us are studying. But when you see the stock of a rifle hitting your teeth, to wake up in a gulag with lots of guards torturing you for the rest of your life just because you wrote against the Arab dictators in the Internet; you'll think twice.

Awareness is the key with a sleeping nation, to rise.

(May 29, 2018 at 6:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(May 29, 2018 at 6:11 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: No. There's a river of blood in the Middle East, the killing is carried out by the dictators ruling, and their allies. It's very insulting to have a country like Israel made and constructed out of the blue to satisfy a biblical prophecy, it's more sad to see Palestinian people who lost their homes living like slaves without passports or any papers across the Middle East.

It's spreading awareness. It's not at all complaining.
Cows?

We been complaining and it's creating is angry terrorists making life worse for us.

We need to come up with a game plan that can be achievable and actually bring stability, prosperity, freedom, and peace to the middle-east.

I am going to study and get skills to help achieve that.

As for US, they nuked two cities in Japan and this generation brainwashed to believe it's a righteous act, both the threat to nuke their whole country and the actual two nuking of the two cities.

The question, is how do we change their mindset.

Simply calling them evil won't work.

I am looking to go for a social democratic anarchy as the way to govern ourselves. Where this was unlikely achievable in the past, with technology today, we can achieve this.

But I need to study and come with a real structure that can be implement.

Inshallah brother, we all do what we can.

I don't find complaining about it works anymore and the people don't know what to do with information these days.

Mass-awareness doesn't cause people to do anything.

Awareness is the candle in times of darkness. The Middle East is gone mentally; between the defeat of WW1, the establishment of Israel and the dictators sitting on the throats of its people, awareness is as precious as diamonds.

Awareness is punished by death in places like Saudi Arabia. Visit and see for yourself. Though worldwide, criticize Israel and millions will jump at your throat accusing you of Anti-Semitism.

Study, lots of us are studying. But when you see the stock of a rifle hitting your teeth, to wake up in a gulag with lots of guards torturing you for the rest of your life just because you wrote against the Arab dictators in the Internet; you'll think twice.

Awareness is the key with a sleeping nation, to rise.

Terrorists are created because of silence. Repressed emotions explode because years of silence are there. Add self hate, and you'll understand why Middle Eastern people kill each other. Middle Eastern people hate the guts of themselves.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
Maybe you should do something about the means of control employed to shittify all those peoples lives?  We had to neuter our own magic book too..you know.    Rolleyes
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