MysticKnight Wrote:I don't know how an ad hoc explanation is possible in an explanation - I would look up what ad hoc fallacy is and see if it can even apply here.

If you can't see how it can apply, you have no defense against falling for it.

(May 29, 2018 at 5:42 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 29, 2018 at 5:36 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Don't make a drama out of a discussion in a discussion forum; ilk.

No drama. I simply oppose all superstitious nonsense in all of it's guises. Evil only triumphs if good people stand to one side and do nothing.

That's true; but it's very healthy to check every once and a while for the evil in your side.

Looks pretty authentic to me.

AtlasS33 Wrote:

Mister Agenda Wrote:No, you'll just find an ad hoc explanation for any apparent contradictions.

I think it's 2 lines at most; no need for huge ad-hocs algorithms.

Does Allah forgive all who seek his forgiveness?

(May 27, 2018 at 10:35 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: What is the source of your problems with Islam?

Let's be honest: worldwide there are so many views that make Islam stand back in the queue of strong sentences.

Let's take the Christian Bible: the old testament advocates pedophilia, slavery, and mass murder.
The Jewish Talmud is even more violent, with sentences that include the pouring of molten lead into the mouth of the condemned:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#Judaism

And execution for grand treason for deserters of the army in secular countries right before 80 years only.

Yes, those books are equally as horrible as the Quran. Tu quo que fallacy much?

"Other religious texts are just as violent as mine! So there!".

How does that make your religious text good?

Here's the difference between modern Christianity and Judaism (for the most part) compared to Modern Islam, though. Modern Jews and Christians, with few notable exceptions, no longer carry out the horrible actions in their books. Muslims do

From a Pew study in 2013, 350 MILLION Muslims support violent Jihad. Even though the vast majority of Muslims do not, that is still a lot of extremists that can get ahold of weapons.

Quote:Don't you think that it's quite hypocritical to leave all of that aside, ignore it, and cherry pick the Quran only?
What is the source of your problems with Islam? This is a real question, not sarcastic.

-Is it the brown skin of Arabs?
-Is it the heritage of Arabs?
-Is it xenophobia + Islamophobia?

Because I truly fail to see why the media -and so many biased people- bash Islam for the cultural actions of Middle Eastern people, and ignore in a very rude way the Jewish & Christian insane texts which live up to be worthy of a doctrine for a torture chamber.

None of those reasons describe my position.

My dislike for Islam (and Judaism, Christianity and Hinduism) is that it is a horrible operating system to be running on human minds. It has so many bugs built in, that Muslims believe are features.

It is great that Christianity and Judaism have been dragged, kicking and screaming the entire way, into modernity. Islam, in many parts of the world, is still living in the 7th century.

(May 29, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I guess my husband is a terrorist lol

The American army is a terrorist organization, and pilots especially were a crucial part in exporting terrorism and death to the world, from Japan to Iraq, the reign of terror of American bombs marked this century with blood and death.

Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah...d_killings

No offense; but without the infamous reputation of the U.S army; enemies would not fear it that much.
It's a terrorist organization.

"No offense but your husband is a terrorist."

Got it. Lol.

(May 29, 2018 at 5:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The only reason why I don't constantly complain about ME and crimes of US is because I don't have a plan of action for people to take to reduce or stop it at the moment.

But I won't forever sit in silence and watch the oppressors oppress.  I just need to learn about economy, the world, and history, and other skills, and learn about the structure of power today.

Otherwise, we can complain till the cows come home. It won't change anything.

No. There's a river of blood in the Middle East, the killing is carried out by the dictators ruling, and their allies. It's very insulting to have a country like Israel made and constructed out of the blue to satisfy a biblical prophecy, it's more sad to see Palestinian people who lost their homes living like slaves without passports or any papers across the Middle East.

It's spreading awareness. It's not at all complaining.
Cows?

(May 29, 2018 at 6:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(May 29, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I guess my husband is a terrorist lol

The American army is a terrorist organization, and pilots especially were a crucial part in exporting terrorism and death to the world, from Japan to Iraq, the reign of terror of American bombs marked this century with blood and death.

Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah...d_killings

No offense; but without the infamous reputation of the U.S army; enemies would not fear it that much.
It's a terrorist organization.

https://web.archive.org/web/201310230517...mm-premium

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6288156.stm

Shall I continue?

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(May 29, 2018 at 6:05 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: "No offense but your husband is a terrorist."

Got it. Lol.

Honestly, that was pretty offensive. Were I you, I would be up in arms over such a slur. Fair play for keeping your cool, I would have been through the screen with a fist if such was hurled at me or mine.

(May 29, 2018 at 5:48 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

MysticKnight Wrote:I don't know how an ad hoc explanation is possible in an explanation - I would look up what ad hoc fallacy is and see if it can even apply here.

If you can't see how it can apply, you have no defense against falling for it.

Usually ad hoc makes an explanation he himself doesn't believe in to argue a point in a fantasy what if conversation just for the sake of argument.

But in this case, I would not believe in explanation of Quran that I don't believe myself.