We understand it, which is why we define Islam two ways:

The true religion from God (and that we don't judge who is or not on it be they a Muslim/jew etc) and submitting to God in spirit and following the truth one knows.

The testimony (Whether justified or not, truthful or liar, upon proof or upon ignorance) that there is only one God and Mohammad is his Messenger.


Muslims are in this world known by two, as for 1, they will be known on the day of judgement.

But in the mean while, yes, we interpret the Quran differently, but if it is from God, it has only one true interpretation (which may have various levels to it, but at the end, only one correct way to recite the words in meaning).

(June 5, 2018 at 10:20 am)MysticKnight Wrote: We understand it, which is why we define Islam two ways:

The true religion from God (and that we don't judge who is or not on it be they a Muslim/jew etc) and submitting to God in spirit and following the truth one knows.

The testimony (Whether justified or not, truthful or liar, upon proof or upon ignorance) that there is only one God and Mohammad is his Messenger.


Muslims are in this world known by two, as for 1, they will be known on the day of judgement.

But in the mean while, yes, we interpret the Quran differently, but if it is from God, it has only one true interpretation (which may have various levels to it, but at the end, only one correct way to recite the words in meaning).

Are Sunnies considered your brothers, and you don't judge them for their beliefs?

(June 5, 2018 at 11:58 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(June 5, 2018 at 10:20 am)MysticKnight Wrote: We understand it, which is why we define Islam two ways:

The true religion from God (and that we don't judge who is or not on it be they a Muslim/jew etc) and submitting to God in spirit and following the truth one knows.

The testimony (Whether justified or not, truthful or liar, upon proof or upon ignorance) that there is only one God and Mohammad is his Messenger.


Muslims are in this world known by two, as for 1, they will be known on the day of judgement.

But in the mean while, yes, we interpret the Quran differently, but if it is from God, it has only one true interpretation (which may have various levels to it, but at the end, only one correct way to recite the words in meaning).

Are Sunnies considered your brothers, and you don't judge them for their beliefs?

They are my brothers, I don't judge any particular person, because I don't know their heart state.

However, Sunnism is a very bad stance to the Quran and Sunnah, it's ignorant stance, and the path of inward submission I believe should lead away from it, unless, the truth and proofs are very difficult to access.

And even if they are disbelievers by heart and all their actions prove they are snakes, in this world, they are treated as Muslim brothers.

And for example, I can marry a Sunni women and Sunni Man can marry a Shia Women.

But didn;t they kill shia jesus?

The Sunnis today are not to be held to their ancestors and what they done and the rulers they sided with.

Every generation makes a choice on how they want to be and even if most Sunnis are stubborn ( I don't know if they are or not), I Won't judge a particular individual unless he places himself as a head to tyranny and oppression.

Explosions rip through Baghdad Shia mosque, killing 10

A pair of explosions ripped through a mosque in a mostly Shiite district of Iraq's capital Wednesday, killing at least 10 worshippers, including two children, security officials said.


More Sunni-Shia bonhomie.

If God now talks to me and I write things down, and they contradict the Quran, which one is correct?

OK, let's see what some ex Muslims have to say on their problems with Islam. Back in 2015 in preparation for International Human Rights Day began a campaign inviting ex-Muslims from around the world to use photographs, videos, and handwritten signs to explain why they left Islam. The movement was named #ExMuslimBecause

Within twenty-four hours, #ExMuslimBecause became the number one trending hashtag on Twitter in the United Kingdom. There was also an article in Huffington Post with compilation of some of the most popular tweets

Here are those of most popular:

#ExMuslimBecause Bacon—what other reason could there possibly be?
—@Wraithiest

#ExMuslimBecause I know being a woman doesn’t make me lesser. I shouldn’t have to worship behind men, or be segregated from them.
—@NiceMangos

#ExMuslimBecause No real God should need protection from bloggers and no real prophet should need protection from cartoons.
—@aliamjadrizvi

“#ExMuslimBecause I’d be sentenced to death if I was [outed] as an apostate in Saudi Arabia.
—@alina_mmz

#ExMuslimBecause I am not an abomination by virtue of being gay.
—@DudeInDistress

#ExMuslimBecause Atheist [bloggers] are being killed in my country #Bangladesh but my Muslim friends are directly or indirectly supporting it.
—@sh1shazal

#ExMuslimBecause I couldn’t handle hearing my own family say that Shi’as, my neighbors and best friends, are kuffar [infidels].
—@riyamnm

#ExMuslimBecause My own mother told me I should be killed because I didn’t believe the same things she did.
—@YasmienMills

#ExMuslimBecause The Quran, in my view, is literature that was written by men. We are yet to know who wrote it.
—@Ali_Jones89

#ExMuslimBecause I’m told Islam gives you freedom of thought and religion but at the same time punishes apostasy by death.
—@Zxop11

#ExMuslimBecause For some reason Islam bans alcohol and pre-marital sex but not slavery.
—@MalayBoy87

#ExMuslimBecause [I] was indoctrinated as a child and denounced my religion as soon as I was old enough to think for myself.
—@90degree_flow

#ExMuslimBecause I care about what is true.
—@FilthyApostate

#ExMuslimBecause I simply used my brain.
—@M37158

#ExMuslimBecause I was tired of trying to fit inside a box that was never made for me.
—@hossain_food

#ExMuslimBecause I prefer reality over myth and reason over ignorance.
—@musaaziz

#ExMuslimBecause LGBT are humans and not my [enemies].
—@AaalaKaatiba

#ExMuslimBecause I have a deep yearning for knowledge about our world, nature, and the universe. Religion can’t provide adequate answers.
—@slumdoglove

#ExMuslimBecause I couldn’t debate or criticize Islam without my parents yelling or screaming at me, and threatening me.
—@nukacola11

#ExMuslimBecause People should have the right to leave whatever religion they want.
—@Aren_Armenian

#ExMuslimBecause I’d rather look through a telescope than read a book that says I came out of a man’s rib to be lured by a talking snake.
—@SecularlyYours

#ExMuslimBecause I didn’t want to live in guilt anymore.
—@super_trampp

#ExMuslimBecause Speaking my truth shouldn’t be a death sentence.
—@SuraiyaSimi

#ExMuslimBecause … I am a #Saudi … enough said …
—@AtheistHijazi

#ExMuslimBecause I cannot fathom the idea that wretched morality of 7th century is unchangeable no matter how barbaric it is.
—@DesiZeus

#ExMuslimBecause Misogyny, homophobia, stoning people to death, and killing apostates don’t suddenly become “respectable” when put in a holy book.
—@LibMuslim

and also this photo

(June 5, 2018 at 12:14 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The Sunnis today are not to be held to their ancestors and what they done and the rulers they sided with.

Every generation makes a choice on how they want to be and even if most Sunnis are stubborn ( I don't know if they are or not), I Won't judge a particular individual unless he places himself as a head to tyranny and oppression.

The word "Sunni" itself means "The way of the Prophet" in Arabic: and it is defined to be:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnah

Quote:Sunnah (sunnah, (also sunna) سنة, Arabic: [sunna], plural سنن sunan [sunan]) is the body of traditional social and legal custom and practice of the Islamic community,[1] based on the verbally transmitted record of the teachings, deeds and sayings, silent permissions (or disapprovals) of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, as well as various reports about Muhammad's companions

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The Shiite sect is built on the hatred of Sunnies. Hatred and despise to Sunnies keep the Shiite faith alive:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam

Quote:Shia (/ˈʃiːə/; Arabic: شيعة‎ Shīʿah, from Shīʻatu ʻAlī, "followers of Ali") is a branch of Islam which holds that the Islamic prophet Muhammad designated Ali ibn Abi Talib as his successor (Imam).[1] Shia Islam primarily contrasts with Sunni Islam, whose adherents believe that Muhammad did not appoint a successor and consider Abu Bakr (who was appointed Caliph through a Shura, i.e. community consensus) to be the correct first Caliph.[2] Unlike the first three Rashidun caliphs, Ali was from the same clan as Muhammad, Banu Hashim.[3]

Shia Islam is -by definition- the rival of Sunni Islam.
Don't lie about "your cult being all peaceful", you just can't take  Sunnies out because Sunnies are too many. So you wait.

It's a time bomb ready to explode; and your cult is the timer. The grudge between your cult and between Sunnies is the fuel.

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(June 7, 2018 at 3:52 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: OK, let's see what some ex Muslims have to say on their problems with Islam. Back in 2015 in preparation for International Human Rights Day began a campaign inviting ex-Muslims from around the world to use photographs, videos, and handwritten signs to explain why they left Islam. The movement was named #ExMuslimBecause

Within twenty-four hours, #ExMuslimBecause became the number one trending hashtag on Twitter in the United Kingdom. There was also an article in Huffington Post with compilation of some of the most popular tweets

Here are those of most popular:

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#ExMuslimBecause Bacon—what other reason could there possibly be?
—@Wraithiest

#ExMuslimBecause I know being a woman doesn’t make me lesser. I shouldn’t have to worship behind men, or be segregated from them.
—@NiceMangos

#ExMuslimBecause No real God should need protection from bloggers and no real prophet should need protection from cartoons.
—@aliamjadrizvi

“#ExMuslimBecause I’d be sentenced to death if I was [outed] as an apostate in Saudi Arabia.
—@alina_mmz

#ExMuslimBecause I am not an abomination by virtue of being gay.
—@DudeInDistress

#ExMuslimBecause Atheist [bloggers] are being killed in my country #Bangladesh but my Muslim friends are directly or indirectly supporting it.
—@sh1shazal

#ExMuslimBecause I couldn’t handle hearing my own family say that Shi’as, my neighbors and best friends, are kuffar [infidels].
—@riyamnm

#ExMuslimBecause My own mother told me I should be killed because I didn’t believe the same things she did.
—@YasmienMills

#ExMuslimBecause The Quran, in my view, is literature that was written by men. We are yet to know who wrote it.
—@Ali_Jones89

#ExMuslimBecause I’m told Islam gives you freedom of thought and religion but at the same time punishes apostasy by death.
—@Zxop11

#ExMuslimBecause For some reason Islam bans alcohol and pre-marital sex but not slavery.
—@MalayBoy87

#ExMuslimBecause [I] was indoctrinated as a child and denounced my religion as soon as I was old enough to think for myself.
—@90degree_flow

#ExMuslimBecause I care about what is true.
—@FilthyApostate

#ExMuslimBecause I simply used my brain.
—@M37158

#ExMuslimBecause I was tired of trying to fit inside a box that was never made for me.
—@hossain_food

#ExMuslimBecause I prefer reality over myth and reason over ignorance.
—@musaaziz

#ExMuslimBecause LGBT are humans and not my [enemies].
—@AaalaKaatiba

#ExMuslimBecause I have a deep yearning for knowledge about our world, nature, and the universe. Religion can’t provide adequate answers.
—@slumdoglove

#ExMuslimBecause I couldn’t debate or criticize Islam without my parents yelling or screaming at me, and threatening me.
—@nukacola11

#ExMuslimBecause People should have the right to leave whatever religion they want.
—@Aren_Armenian

#ExMuslimBecause I’d rather look through a telescope than read a book that says I came out of a man’s rib to be lured by a talking snake.
—@SecularlyYours

#ExMuslimBecause I didn’t want to live in guilt anymore.
—@super_trampp

#ExMuslimBecause Speaking my truth shouldn’t be a death sentence.
—@SuraiyaSimi

#ExMuslimBecause … I am a #Saudi … enough said …
—@AtheistHijazi

#ExMuslimBecause I cannot fathom the idea that wretched morality of 7th century is unchangeable no matter how barbaric it is.
—@DesiZeus

#ExMuslimBecause Misogyny, homophobia, stoning people to death, and killing apostates don’t suddenly become “respectable” when put in a holy book.
—@LibMuslim

and also this photo

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A group of tweets?
I bet half of them are written by the same nerd, over and over and over.

Right, because it;s not as if anyone would ever have cause to leave islam.  Its just a 400lb dude on his bed in jersey typing all that shit.