(July 3, 2018 at 2:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Keep relying on your ignorance Jo, it will get you to the place you deserve.

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And I been through critical approach and very well aware of what Satan can do make people falsely perceive the Quran and I know of anti-Quranic arguments.

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For the life of me, I can't understand people who oppose the proofs of God and oppose the proofs of the path he offers,  except, they are severe in evil and of dark state that has succumb to a dark magic. No rational reason can do with it and the way you guys act proves it all.

Magic? Rational? Back to the looney bin you go sir.

(July 3, 2018 at 2:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Keep relying on your ignorance Jo, it will get you to the place you deserve.

That's a funny argument to make for someone who was just caught relying on their own ignorance.

(June 29, 2018 at 4:48 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:

(June 29, 2018 at 4:37 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Major Premise:  If an objective moral lawgiver ("God") exists who is the source of objective morality, then God must be morally good.

Minor Premise:  If a moral, infinite being exists, then such a being has moral obligations, namely, to reveal, unambiguously, objective moral truths to Us, His Creation.

Conclusion:  Since such a clear revelation has never occurred, therefore, god does not exist.

I find do not murder to be fairly unambiguous.

I don't need Moses to tell me not to murder. Every other society has figured it out without imaginary god.

(July 3, 2018 at 3:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(July 3, 2018 at 2:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Keep relying on your ignorance Jo, it will get you to the place you deserve.

That's a funny argument to make for someone who was just caught relying on their own ignorance.

I know the Quran is from God due to knowledge God has given me of it, while you rely on your ignorance and conjecture all in desire to put out it's light, but it's light will spread one day far and wide while it's opponents will be remembered for who they truly were.  And God is the best guide and knows how to help the oppressed and doesn't guide the oppressing people nor those with them.

(July 3, 2018 at 3:58 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(June 29, 2018 at 4:48 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I find do not murder to be fairly unambiguous.

I don't need Moses to tell me not to murder. Every other society has figured it out without imaginary god.

The ancient Israelites (as are their modern counterparts) were (and, are) systematic murderers.

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(July 3, 2018 at 4:56 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(July 3, 2018 at 3:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: That's a funny argument to make for someone who was just caught relying on their own ignorance.

I know the Quran is from God due to knowledge God has given me of it, while you rely on your ignorance and conjecture all in desire to put out it's light, but it's light will spread one day far and wide while it's opponents will be remembered for who they truly were.  And God is the best guide and knows how to help the oppressed and doesn't guide the oppressing people nor those with them.

Yours is an invitation to schizophrenia.

He still can't decide whether we're irrational or under dark sorcery, I see. Can I think my way out of magic? What kind of weak-ass genie is that. Honestly, go moan to Allah. He's the one who refuses to remove all this dark sorcery so we can all think clearly.

(July 4, 2018 at 4:25 am)robvalue Wrote: He still can't decide whether we're irrational or under dark sorcery, I see. Can I think my way out of magic? What kind of weak-ass genie is that. Honestly, go moan to Allah. He's the one who refuses to remove all this dark sorcery so we can all think clearly.

Reason should be preferred by humans by nature every time, the fact, we don't prefer reason and follow something else that doesn't benefit us in either worlds, speaks volumes of a dark sinister force upon us.

(July 4, 2018 at 11:27 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(July 4, 2018 at 4:25 am)robvalue Wrote: He still can't decide whether we're irrational or under dark sorcery, I see. Can I think my way out of magic? What kind of weak-ass genie is that. Honestly, go moan to Allah. He's the one who refuses to remove all this dark sorcery so we can all think clearly.

Reason should be preferred by humans by nature every time, the fact, we don't prefer reason and follow something else that doesn't benefit us in either worlds, speaks volumes of a dark sinister force upon us.

Like your insistence on question begging despite the fallacy being pointed out to you several times by several people?  I agree that no reasonable person would continue on that way.  My conclusion is that your mind is being controlled by sorcery and dark forces. It’s the only reasonable explanation for your inability to understand the obvious truth of your invalid logic.

(July 4, 2018 at 11:42 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(July 4, 2018 at 11:27 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Reason should be preferred by humans by nature every time, the fact, we don't prefer reason and follow something else that doesn't benefit us in either worlds, speaks volumes of a dark sinister force upon us.

Like your insistence on question begging despite the fallacy being pointed out to you several times by several people?  I agree that no reasonable person would continue on that way.  My conclusion is that your mind is being controlled by sorcery and dark forces. It’s the only reasonable explanation for your inability to understand the obvious truth of your invalid logic.

Or your being obtuse while my answer is reasonable.

(July 4, 2018 at 12:07 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(July 4, 2018 at 11:42 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Like your insistence on question begging despite the fallacy being pointed out to you several times by several people?  I agree that no reasonable person would continue on that way.  My conclusion is that your mind is being controlled by sorcery and dark forces. It’s the only reasonable explanation for your inability to understand the obvious truth of your invalid logic.

Or your being obtuse while my answer is reasonable.

Lol, yeah, MK.  “My book has magical powers”, is totally reasonable.