(July 11, 2018 at 12:10 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(July 11, 2018 at 11:30 am)Drich Wrote: senseability or a reasonable belief has to do with experience no? Do you honestly think I have live a mirror to your life, but simply unreasonably come to a different conclusion about God?

IDK what if EVERTHING I ever shared with you all was 100% to the best of my ability true? would it not then be reasonable FOR ME if I keep getting input and stimuli from what the bible describes as the Holy Spirit, to believe in God?

Reason/sensibility are variables which yield different levels of understanding and belief. if you have no exposure to God then yes it is reasonable for you to go down a certain path. however if you choose to ignore what God offers us/share with you the Holy Spirit, then that becomes the unreasonable bit

You're missing a few gears in your wheelhouse, friend.  I wasn't talking about your beliefs but about your base ability to reason, as displayed in recent arguments.

and you need someone to connect ALL the dots before you can see a bigger picture.

And I agreed but also showed that all reasoning is based on personal experience. we do not have the same baseline therefore will come to different conclusion even if we use the same formula or mechanics of reasoning. why? because our experiences will be different.

For instance I maybe willing to take more chances weighing out risk the same way you do, however that does not mean i will come to the same conclusion as you would if my EXPERIENCE in taking chance always turns out to be bad.

Do you get it now?

So if my experience with God was real and your experience was non existent then we using the same process of reasoning by default have come to different conclusions.

Do you see now? do you finally understand what I am saying/cant judge reasoning on out come, because personal experience is a variable you can not account for when a person decides what is and is not reasonable.

See my gears are there, they just move a lot faster than yours.

Well Mr. Drich, you have 2 plainly worded scriptures in consecutive Genesis chapters that both cannot be true.

There's also that little matter at the Last Supper where Jesus did wine then bread in one inerrant gospel and bread then wine in another supposedly inerrant gospel.  

And Lord knows you don't like how I see the matter of whether or not Simon of Cyrene carried Jesus cross. And at least my take leaves both accounts as true in that regard.

(July 11, 2018 at 1:20 pm)Drich Wrote: See my gears are there, they just move a lot faster than yours.

Whenever you touch down on Terra Firma again, feel free to let me know.

(July 11, 2018 at 5:21 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(July 11, 2018 at 1:20 pm)Drich Wrote: See my gears are there, they just move a lot faster than yours.

Whenever you touch down on Terra Firma again, feel free to let me know.

In fairness, his gears may move a lot faster. The problem is his clutch doesn't engage.

Quote:See my gears are there, they just move a lot faster than yours.

Your gears Dirch 

(July 11, 2018 at 3:18 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(July 11, 2018 at 1:31 am)Godscreated Wrote:  No atheist has pointed out any errors in the scriptures, period. 

GC

Surely, you mean APART from all the contradictions , errors and faults that have been pointed out both here and online numerous times?

Those same contradictions, etrors, and faults that have pretty much lead to a whole industry called "apologetics" to make excuses for them?

Your imagination is running away with your intelligence. No one here has proven any contradiction or faults, they only perceive such because they have limited understanding of the Bible. You know, like you accuse me of having limited understanding of science, science deals with the physical and God is spiritual. Apologetics are in place to correct the lies of the atheist community.

GC

(July 12, 2018 at 1:10 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 11, 2018 at 3:18 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Surely, you mean APART from all the contradictions , errors and faults that have been pointed out both here and online numerous times?

Those same contradictions, etrors, and faults that have pretty much lead to a whole industry called "apologetics" to make excuses for them?

Your imagination is running away with your intelligence. No one here has proven any contradiction or faults, they only perceive such because they have limited understanding of the Bible. You know, like you accuse me of having limited understanding of science, science deals with the physical and God is spiritual. Apologetics are in place to correct the lies of the atheist community.

GC

We don't need to "prove" the contradictions. We can just point you at them and you can read them for yourself.

And, once again, in general atheists have a better knowledge of the bible than Christians. The only ones who come close are Mormons. Proved through multiple studies.

Finally, apologetics were invented to make excuses for the shortcomings of scriptures, as pointed out by multiple sources. And if something needs apologetics, especially if that something eas supposedly written by a perfect being, then that something is fundamentally flawed.

Every asshole seems to have his own interpretation.  Silly shits.


Meanwhile, the kind of stuff they hate to hear!

https://www.meta-religion.com/World_Reli...eation.htm

Quote:One of the two Bible creation myths was probably derived from the much older Mesopotamian creation myth "Enuma Elish".
The six days of creation in the Genesis myth parallel the six generations of gods in the Enuma Elish myth in type of god in Enuma Elish that is created (i.e. god of the earth) to what is created or happens on the corresponding day in Genesis (i.e. the waters are gathered together to expose dry land).
Marduk the sixth generation god makes man as a slave so the other gods can rest.
God (Elohim) makes man on the sixth day and he himself rests.
The Enuma Elish six generations of gods:

The "Genesis Account" is just as gay(stupid) as the ones who both sells it, and the buyers! The "Genesis Account" of both any religious mindset, and any ignorant lame ass, who doesn't now how to translate biblical Hebrew(to their benefit), is well: just a dumbass!

The Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, of God's Word, were given to all for understanding so that, we all do NOT have to suffer the suckassedness of the insanely stupid! And that whether atomic cultist fucks like Einstein or, dumbasses like(pick your favorite dumbass Xtian cult leader, let me pick Jerry Farwell)!

It's not one, or the other. They're both dumbasses!

God just said, "Let it be(exist)! NO, "CREATION"! DEAL WITH IT!

I am NOT a YEC! AS, shit happened here, on this earth, LONG before Adam and Eve. The bible does NOT establish a "young earth". Only theology is that fucking stupid! If you want to argue against the dumbassedry of theology, you're on your own!

If you want to call it all "Darwinian Evolution": you're just as dumb as the "ex nilio" church fucks!

OPEN YOUR EYES! CATCH A CLUE! Never be a dumb as "science" or, as lame as the church!

(July 12, 2018 at 1:10 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 11, 2018 at 3:18 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Surely, you mean APART from all the contradictions , errors and faults that have been pointed out both here and online numerous times?

Those same contradictions, etrors, and faults that have pretty much lead to a whole industry called "apologetics" to make excuses for them?

Your imagination is running away with your intelligence. No one here has proven any contradiction or faults, they only perceive such because they have limited understanding of the Bible. You know, like you accuse me of having limited understanding of science, science deals with the physical and God is spiritual. Apologetics are in place to correct the lies of the atheist community.

GC

In a mere four sentences, you managed to go from perception and limited understanding to lies.  Careful, GC, your slip is showing.