Yet I find Trump's treason against Christ to be the more serious offense, and yet the Christians are willing to give him a pass for his continuing apostasies . . . .

Quote:I haven’t seen, and the article is just opinion. 

Opinions can be true or false 

Quote:What was said or done, that was treasonous?

So your to lazy to read it

(July 17, 2018 at 10:03 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Yet I find Trump's treason against Christ to be the more serious offense, and yet the Christians are willing to give him a pass for his continuing apostasies . . . .

Surely citizens ought to be held to a higher standard than Christians?

If that was really treason, House Dems should be drawing up articles of impeachment and trying to get some Reps to join them. Best case they succeed. Worst case they highlight that Reps support treason, and so Dems win a lot of seats in November.

If Dems don't do so, possible reasons are:

- they're traitors themselves
- they're stupid
- they understand that it's not really treason and they'll look like idiots if they push it

How about they are not in power, asshole?  Nothing gets to the house floor unless that spineless puppy, Ryan, says so.

Learn something about how the congress works instead of remaining an ignorant fucktard your whole life. 

Did you buy your Make Russia Great Again hat, yet?

(July 17, 2018 at 8:21 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(July 17, 2018 at 8:04 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I haven’t seen, and the article is just opinion. What was said or done, that was treasonous?

It is his collective behavior.

Has constantly vilified entire races and religions.
Has shit on war heros.
Has ignored intel, and event to the point of vilifying REPUBLICAN INTEL.
Has repeatedly vilified the free press.
Attacked our allies.

And instead of siding with OUR intel, REPUBLICAN appointees HIS, he bent over on the global stage, ignored and denied OUR INTEL, then sucked the dick of Putin. 

YES, TREASON!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/16/world...sinki.html

I think that is a slipper slope you are putting forth there, many of those things might be said of a number of democrats as well.    For instance criticizing the press or intelligence agencies, attacking allies... etc.   This just seems like stuff you disagree with.   Are you suggesting that there be no checks and balances for the press or the intelligence agencies, that they not be called out when the behave badly?   I fail to see how criticizing the press could be considered treason.   One might say that open and public criticism of the intelligence agencies weakens the confidence in them, and thus weakens the country.   But this is not treason.   Also wouldn't the same reasoning apply to criticizing the President of the country? 

You last line, seems to be actually on topic.   I assume that what you mean that Trump was being too nice/ friendly with Putin (I'm not sure if the other stuff is your own personal fantasies, I'm doubting that occurred in anything for public viewing).  However I think that to use the word treasonous for this, is just ridiculous.  I can understand where some might disagree, and think his actions unwise.  I think that a case could be made for the phrase "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer".   But if this is what they are calling treasonous (I think I even heard someone mentioning impeach); I think it's crazy if this is made out to be anything more than hyperbole.

---

(July 17, 2018 at 10:29 am)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:I haven’t seen, and the article is just opinion. 

Opinions can be true or false 

I agree; my concern, was that this opinion seemed to be quiet on facts or any reason for that opinion.

Quote:

Quote:What was said or done, that was treasonous?

So your to lazy to read it

No, but I thought I would ask, and perhaps add to the discussion.

Why?  Did you just receive your talking points from Breitbart?

They are Christards. For them trump is making America great in much the same way genocidal god is kind and benevolent.

(July 17, 2018 at 12:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: How about they are not in power, asshole?  Nothing gets to the house floor unless that spineless puppy, Ryan, says so.

Learn something about how the congress works instead of remaining an ignorant fucktard your whole life. 

Did you buy your Make Russia Great Again hat, yet?

I covered that already. See the bolded. If it doesn't go to a vote, they use that in the elections.

Quote:If that was really treason, House Dems should be drawing up articles of impeachment and trying to get some Reps to join them. Best case they succeed. Worst case they highlight that Reps support treason, and so Dems win a lot of seats in November.

(July 17, 2018 at 12:22 pm)alpha male Wrote: If that was really treason, House Dems should be drawing up articles of impeachment and trying to get some Reps to join them. Best case they succeed. Worst case they highlight that Reps support treason, and so Dems win a lot of seats in November.

If Dems don't do so, possible reasons are:

- they're traitors themselves
- they're stupid
- they understand that it's not really treason and they'll look like idiots if they push it

Worst case scenario: the democrats highlight that republican support of treason, but the spread of cynical apathy among the increasingly impoverished non-one percenters is so great that republicans increase their majorities in both houses and immediately after the election pledge open fealty to Putin who appoints Trump head of the Russian mafia in the former U.S.A..