It's a typical response to a one-liner. Either he's crazy, or there's something behind those words that you're not aware of. I'll bet a million dollars that if we google Maryam Monsef, we'll find this isn't after all a simple issue of gender equality. I'll bet a million dollars it leads pretty quickly to identity politics and some kind of PC fuckery.

Want to go down that rabbit hole with me? Let's do this.

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Benny...she's the minister of status of women.....he was tweeting about a womens march. She is an official whose job it is to hear and handle those concerns.

I'm almost afraid of the answer to this..but who is it supposed to be typical for...to call equity a murderous doctrine? What is he suggesting Trudeau..or Canada in general..is going to do?

(pst...he thinks that cyrptomarxists are going to white genocide him)

Or he will  interprat something innocent in the darkest  light possible

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Benny...she's the minister of status of women.....he was tweeting about a womens march.  She is an official whose job it is to hear and handle those concerns.

I'm almost afraid of the answer to this..but who is it supposed to be typical for...to call equity a murderous doctrine?  What is he suggesting Trudeau..or Canada in general..is going to do?

(pst...he thinks that cyrptomarxists are going to white genocide him)

You still don't know why he said that.  Have you googled what those words mean?  Have you googled her background, or that of the Liberal government in regard to them?

Come on, man, do a little legwork.  I'll do it with you if you like.  I'm a little suspicious that I won't like where it ends up, either.  If so, great.  But my criticism of Tiz earlier, and you now, isn't really that you're wrong about him.  It's that the way you've arrived at your opinion is sensational and weak-minded.

MY PREFERRED METHOD
Step one: really understand what he's trying to say and why
Step two: make a case against his position

YOUR PREFERRED METHOD
Step one: see words together you don't like to see together
Step two: get triggered, and assume you can make the call without bothering to understand

My method is better.  And if you are going to spend the next several pages slinging shit and saying you don't need to be bothered with collecting actual facts, then I'll put you in the "hot air" category with Tiz and Fox News.


Anyway, since this all started with the Canadian "pronouns" issue, why don't we find the actual statue, quote it in its entirety (here or in another thread) and see what it actually says?

It's your job to rehabilitate Petersons statements, not mine.  You did say you could do it with anything...remember? You could try to rehabilitate the other position I referenced..if you reckon that maybe he was just having one of those days where a person says inexplicably crazy shit?

You won't have any more success there, but you could try.

Would you like more.....after you're done taking swings at those two? How about one you already think you've done good work on?

(I say inexplicably..but I'm only joking..I actually did explain to you why he said what he said. Whether you can accept that for what it is is your own hangup.)

Quote:My method is better.  And if you are going to spend the next several pages slinging shit and saying you don't need to be bothered with collecting actual facts, then I'll put you in the "hot air" category with Tiz and Fox News.

Still pushing that make believe i see .

(August 17, 2018 at 12:04 am)Khemikal Wrote: It's your job to rehabilitate Petersons statements, not mine.  You did say you could do it with anything...remember?  You could try to rehabilitate the other position I referenced..if you reckon that maybe he was just having one of those days where a person says inexplicably crazy shit?

You won't have any more success there, but you could try.

Would you like more.....after you're done taking swings at those two?  How about one you already think you've done good work on?  

(I say inexplicably..but I'm only joking..I actually did explain to you why he said what he said.  Whether you can accept that for what it is is your own hangup.)

Yep, same as Tiz. You'll rant and shovel the metacommentary, but what you won't do is support your position with facts. That's because you didn't form them from or in response to facts.

Please bring some facts, and support your assertions. I'll even give you a list of fact-based discussion we could base a serious intellectual discussion on:

1) What exactly does the Canadian legislation for which Peterson became famous SAY? Is he right or wrong to oppose it? (We could link the statue and actually read it ourselves)
2) Why the fuck would he respond to a women's march in that way? What do the words mean, and what, exactly, is his beef with the woman he called out? (we could actually learn why they despise each other so much)
3) Why does he keep referring to women in his book as "chaos"? And why are there so many articles and interviews with academic women who seem so solidly interested in, and in support of, his ideas, if he's such a woman-hating pig? (we could see what those female academics SAY in their overt agreement with his stance, even his stance on women and men in society)

All of these might reveal him to be as you've portrayed him. But until you do the actual groundwork, I have to believe that you're just making shit up, i.e. projecting your own anxieties and insecurities as a liberal white man onto a bunch of out-of-context one-liners.

The tweet exists.  That's a fact.  Now rehabilitate it like you swore you could, lol?

No..you know what, gimme my million dollars!

Quote:Yep, same as Tiz. You'll rant and shovel the metacommentary, but what you won't do is support your position with facts. That's because you didn't form them from or in response to facts.

Please bring some facts, and support your assertions.

He tweeted it now defend it .

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(August 17, 2018 at 12:19 am)Khemikal Wrote: The tweet exists.  That's a fact.  Now rehabilitate it like you swore you could, lol?

No..you know what, gimme my million dollars!  

And don't spend that million all in one place .

You know what's really hilarious?  That Benny immediately set off to google the lady, thinking it had something to do with her, rather than Petersons widely known and completely indisputable axe to grind with what he thinks are a bunch of marxists leading us off to the gulags and worse....lol.

Equity is a murderous doctrine..in his opinion. He doesn't make any bones about it. He doesn't deny it. It's his entire act.

He felt like sharing that in response to a tweet about a womens march, and how we all support womens rights. Somehow...that's going to get us all killed - just like it did in soviet russia! (lol)

Is he a political scientist or historian? No.