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In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 11:30 am
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 11:30 am
-and along comes the Huggster..to demonstrate that regardless of where theists or atheists get their moral schema or authority, he's not getting it from anywhere.  

Rejecting any compulsion to decency that comes from the secular end..and whatever message of decency may be in magic book.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 11:44 am (This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 11:44 am by Huggy Bear.)
(August 22, 2018 at 11:30 am)Khemikal Wrote: -and along comes the Huggster..to demonstrate that regardless of where theists or atheists get their moral schema or authority, he's not getting it from anywhere.  

Rejecting any compulsion to decency that comes from the secular end..and whatever message of decency may be in magic book.
*emphasis mine.*
speaking of decency...

(April 14, 2017 at 8:03 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That you're a complete idiot, lol.  
(April 15, 2017 at 5:13 am)Khemikal Wrote: There's no sword to stupid for Huggy to fall on, it seems.
(November 16, 2015 at 2:01 am)Khemikal Wrote: You're a fucking moron, Huggy, and just as I thought...full of shit.
(November 16, 2015 at 12:54 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Moron.
(November 16, 2015 at 12:54 pm)Khemikal Wrote: These fuckers just drop to their knees and put the holy host into their mouths regardless.  I hope it's greasy, and they choke on it.
lol.
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 11:47 am (This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 11:47 am by The Grand Nudger.)
There's no compulsion in my moral schema to be polite to a committed asshole or his idiotic opinions.  What's the problem?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 11:49 am (This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 11:50 am by FatAndFaithless.)
Hooo boy, another episode of "Huggy's saved posts from years ago in an attempt to make himself feel better in any given thread, but only serve to make him look like a petty lunatic"!

What episode is next? Huggy's saved posts about misunderstood and poorly worded questions? Cherry picking insults from literally 2 fucking years ago (part deux)? What and see kids!
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 11:51 am (This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 11:54 am by Huggy Bear.)
(August 22, 2018 at 10:02 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(August 21, 2018 at 11:41 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: *emphasis mine*
Really?

on this forum:

Some atheists were defending a gay man buggering an under age boy.

Another atheist has stated there 5 people she'd like to kill if she knew she could get away with it.

Another atheist claimed if he lived back in the day, he'd happily participate in chattel slavery.

(I assume you disagree with the above?)

Clearly examples of why an individual's brain isn't capable of deciding what's moral.

So again, what is an atheists moral authority?

Theists will argue, in defense of changing mores with regard to, say, slavery, that there being a source of moral values doesn't necessarily imply that we will have an unfailing ability to determine what those values are.  The former is a question of moral ontology rather than moral epistemology.  That there are varying opinions about what is moral does not imply that there is no such thing as a moral truth.  Both theists and atheists make this point, so your questions are unenlightening.  Moreover, if morality is relative rather than objective, morals may change over time or among different contexts.  That doesn't mean that there isn't a source of morality underlying their determinations.  Perhaps what you mean to say is that atheist morals are arbitrary.  That may be the case, but even if so, they are no less arbitrary than the morals of a theist whose God pulled his or her specific moral rules out of their ass.

Christian moral code:

1 Love God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength
2 Love thy neighbour as thyself.


There is none other commandment greater than these. - Mark 12-31

Do you have a problem with the above?
(August 22, 2018 at 11:49 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Hooo boy, another episode of "Huggy's saved posts from years ago in an attempt to make himself feel better in any given thread, but only serve to make him look like a petty lunatic"!  

What episode is next?  Huggy's saved posts about misunderstood and poorly worded questions?  Cherry picking insults from literally 2 fucking years ago (part deux)?  What and see kids!

Not my fault you have no understanding of how the search feature works...
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 11:55 am
(August 22, 2018 at 11:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Christian moral code:

1 Love God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength
2 Love thy neighbour as thyself.


There is none other commandment greater than these. - Mark 12-31

Do you have a problem with the above?

*bold mine*
Why don't we start with what this means, put god and his commands before anything else ?
What else does it mean ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 11:59 am
(August 22, 2018 at 11:55 am)possibletarian Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 11:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Christian moral code:

1 Love God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength
2 Love thy neighbour as thyself.


There is none other commandment greater than these. - Mark 12-31

Do you have a problem with the above?

*bold mine*
Why don't we start with what this means, put god and his commands before anything else ?
What else does it mean ?

Or hey, why not just make that the whole of the commandments, instead of filling a book with a bunch of other commandments which are apparently unnecessary, according to Huggies?
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 11:59 am (This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 12:02 pm by I_am_not_mafia.)
(August 22, 2018 at 11:49 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Hooo boy, another episode of "Huggy's saved posts from years ago in an attempt to make himself feel better in any given thread, but only serve to make him look like a petty lunatic"!  

What episode is next?  Huggy's saved posts about misunderstood and poorly worded questions?  Cherry picking insults from literally 2 fucking years ago (part deux)?  What and see kids!

Yes I was kind of surprised that it was back from 2013.

As Mister Agenda said, Huggy doesn't seem to understand the word 'most'.
(August 22, 2018 at 11:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Christian moral code:

1 Love God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength
2 Love thy neighbour as thyself.


There is none other commandment greater than these. - Mark 12-31

Do you have a problem with the above?

It does assume that you can choose to love or not love, or be commanded to do so. How sincere can such love be?

Mr God sounds more like an abusive spouse.
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
August 22, 2018 at 12:04 pm (This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 12:06 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 22, 2018 at 11:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Christian moral code:

1 Love God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength
Not interested in dating your boyfriend.

Quote:2 Love thy neighbour as thyself.
Seems like certain christians have a huge problem with this one.....but maybe that's because they're self loathing pricks who see themselves as degenirate sinners..and they -are- loving others as they love themselves?

Gee, I wonder what might make them see themselves and others that way?  Jerkoff
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