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In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
#61
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
(August 22, 2018 at 12:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(August 21, 2018 at 4:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: How do atheists define morality?

Not fucking the altar boys.

Harvey Milk anyone?
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#62
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
Toss that on the pile of disgusting Huggy remarks.
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#63
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
(August 22, 2018 at 1:11 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 12:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Not fucking the altar boys.

Harvey Milk anyone?

The majority of the leaders of the Christian faith anyone.



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#64
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
(August 22, 2018 at 11:55 am)possibletarian Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 11:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Christian moral code:

1 Love God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength
2 Love thy neighbour as thyself.


There is none other commandment greater than these. - Mark 12-31

Do you have a problem with the above?

*bold mine*
Why don't we start with what this means, put god and his commands before anything else ?
What else does it mean ?

The first 4 commandments from the 10 commandments address loving God. The next 6 address loving your neighbor.

I think the logic is that if you truly love God, then loving your neighbor should logically follow, since loving your neighbor is a large part of loving God. You can't simultaneously love God and hate your neighbor. This is why it is placed first.
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#65
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
Maybe you should tell that to all the people who do love god and hate their neighbor?
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#66
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
(August 22, 2018 at 1:11 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 12:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Not fucking the altar boys.

Harvey Milk anyone?

Was he a priest who claims he was anointed by fucking god.... or are you making up your own rules again, Huggy?
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#67
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
(August 22, 2018 at 11:20 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 3:20 am)paulpablo Wrote: I also say you would happily participate in chattel slavery back in the day.

An individuals brain is pretty much incapable of not deciding what's moral at least to some degree.  

Children have been fucked, people killed and slaves taken in the name of god too, people deciding what's moral with god added doesn't necessarily equal progression with moral attitudes.

Like I said, hit dogs, holler...


(August 5, 2013 at 9:39 am)paulpablo Wrote: If I was in a situation where I was part of a huge rich family who made money from having slaves who were black I doubt I'd give up my vast fortune, large house, secure family and farm and whatever else just because I feel sorry for a few black people, and I am a person with a lot of empathy in comparison with people I know, but I imagine in a world full of unfairness, poverty and death a few slaves wouldn't weigh heavy on my guilt, since round the time of slaves there were child chimney sweeps and mill workers, people dying of all sorts, and it was a harsh dog eat dog world.

Seeing how I'm a descendant of slaves it's hardly likely that I'd own slaves, not to mention there was this whole abolitionist movement, so not everyone was as morally bankrupt as you're implying.

There's no likelyhood of you owning slaves, it's a hypothetical impossible situation.

Within the situation I already presented the parameters. You are part of a rich white family who made money from slaves.

It could be a different situation. It could be that I'm middle eastern in ancient times and raised as a Muslim believing I can have wives from my female captives.

I'm imagining the situation, there's no likelyhood of the time travel and Islamic conquest.


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#68
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
(August 22, 2018 at 1:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 1:11 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Harvey Milk anyone?

Was he a priest who claims he was anointed by fucking god.... or are you making up your own rules again, Huggy?

My question was: "How do atheists define morality?"

Your answer was "Not fucking the altar boys."

So are you implying the 'buggery' of underage boys is only immoral if they are altar boys, or the offender is a priest?
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#69
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
(August 22, 2018 at 1:11 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 12:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Not fucking the altar boys.

Harvey Milk anyone?

Nope. Go ahead. He’s all yours.
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#70
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
(August 22, 2018 at 2:06 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 1:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Was he a priest who claims he was anointed by fucking god.... or are you making up your own rules again, Huggy?

My question was: "How do atheists define morality?"

Your answer was "Not fucking the altar boys."

So are you implying the 'buggery' of underage boys is only immoral if they are altar boys, or the offender is a priest?


I defined and explained morality, and where my morality comes from back on post #11.

You seemed to ignore the post. Although, you did respond to other posts of mine in this thread. Curious that...

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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