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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 6:58 pm
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-that's an option. It's not clear that being a god makes you smart..no more than being a ghost would...that people look to gods and ghosts for answers to questions or great wisdom is a bit of a leap on their part.
They may be talking to the village idiot, after all. Magic eightball says "likely".
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 7:08 pm
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 9:28 pm
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Oh. So religious people are delusional but not in a delusional way. But don't be offended if I say you share all the attributes of being mentally ill and use the same word to describe you as I would to describe the mentally ill because words only mean what I want them to mean so I can be mean and dismissive without sounding mean and dismissive.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 9:58 pm
(August 30, 2018 at 9:28 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Oh. So religious people are delusional but not in a delusional way. But don't be offended if I say you share all the attributes of being mentally ill and use the same word to describe you as I would to describe the mentally ill because words only mean what I want them to mean so I can be mean without sounding mean.
I just remember that atheists aren’t making any claims, and realize that I can ignore this one!
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 10:03 pm
(August 30, 2018 at 9:58 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (August 30, 2018 at 9:28 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Oh. So religious people are delusional but not in a delusional way. But don't be offended if I say you share all the attributes of being mentally ill and use the same word to describe you as I would to describe the mentally ill because words only mean what I want them to mean so I can be mean without sounding mean.
I just remember that atheists aren’t making any claims, and realize that I can ignore this one!
But when Jor and Kit say religious people are delusional it has absolutely nothing to do with their atheism. Nothing at all.....not
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 10:04 pm
(August 30, 2018 at 5:26 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Yeah CL... the word delusion is connotatively linked to mental disorder, but check the definition...
Quote:de·lu·sion
dəˈlo͞oZHən/
noun
- an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.
"the delusion of being watched"
synonyms:
misapprehension, misconception, misunderstanding, mistake, error, misinterpretation, misconstruction, misbelief;
fallacy, illusion, fantasy
misconception... misunderstanding... mistake... all synonyms. When separated from its typical association with mental disorder, one can see why an atheist would consider theism "delusional."
As CL pointed out, it's generally accepted - over 80% - that some god is a reality. So, thanks for confirming that theism isn't a delusion.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 10:35 pm
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...and thus, irony was killed dead. RIP circa 230kbc-present
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 10:38 pm
(August 30, 2018 at 10:04 pm)alpha male Wrote: As CL pointed out, it's generally accepted - over 80% - that some god is a reality. So, thanks for confirming that theism isn't a delusion.
Bruce Jenner is a woman, OTOH...
Argumentum ad populum.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 10:40 pm
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It's interesting how the faithful are suddenly very non denominational when it comes to making excuses for their delusions. Fully 100% of those delusional people can't agree on a goddamned thing and spend considerable amounts of time telling us, and themselves, just how wrong and deluded the other believers are.
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 10:42 pm
(August 30, 2018 at 9:28 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Oh. So religious people are delusional but not in a delusional way. But don't be offended if I say you share all the attributes of being mentally ill and use the same word to describe you as I would to describe the mentally ill because words only mean what I want them to mean so I can be mean and dismissive without sounding mean and dismissive.
I'm not mincing my words or meanings in any way. Theists are delusional, period.
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