(November 12, 2018 at 11:36 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(November 12, 2018 at 11:35 am)Khemikal Wrote: Sure, but you might also want to look into the fact that you don't actually find your own arguments compelling.

You guys don't know the Quran like me, so it's like I am talking about something you guys can't verify. You read translations and don't know why I hate all translations. And the deceptions and lies of Atlas don't help in this regard.

That doesn’t matter.

(November 12, 2018 at 12:57 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(November 12, 2018 at 11:36 am)MysticKnight Wrote: You guys don't know the Quran like me, so it's like I am talking about something you guys can't verify. You read translations and don't know why I hate all translations. And the deceptions and lies of Atlas don't help in this regard.

That doesn’t matter.

It matters, because I am talking about something alien to you. You don't understand what I'm saying nor can it be proven, because you haven't experienced it like me.

So I will try to communicate better!

(November 12, 2018 at 12:08 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I am saying... this is my stance. I'm not saying you should believe it. And whether I should or not, that's up to debate, but I have to be able to present evidence that I perceive and my thought process on that evidence, or there will be nothing to discuss!

Why should that be your stance, if, when I’m telling you it’s MY stance for Christianity, that’s not enough to persuade you I’m right?  If I can’t persuade you into Christianity with the same reasons you use for your belief in Islam, why do you think we should be persuaded by those very same reasons into Islam? Lol.

A singular method that leads to two different, mutually exclusive conclusions, is a shitty, invalid method.

I think your argument is a fallacy. I get it I sound ridiculous the way I talk, but you don't actual believe that, and so it's a fallacy to engage in it.

When I provide the evidence, then you show if you have similar evidence, that leads to another conclusion by others. I doubt you can do it.

(November 12, 2018 at 12:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(November 12, 2018 at 12:57 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: That doesn’t matter.

It matters, because I am talking about something alien to you. You don't understand what I'm saying nor can it be proven, because you haven't experienced it like me.

So I will try to communicate better!

You don’t understand the Bible like I do. You think you know it well, but you haven’t reflected on it properly. You haven’t experienced it’s truth and power like I have. Also, I can’t prove any of that. But I will keep talking at you about it anyway, and blame dark forces when you don’t believe me, instead of putting the blame where it belongs; on myself; for not having any way to prove my claim.

lol, ok. I get it. I am saying, I am going to try to provide evidence and you are right, I ought to not talk about it in the way I have been. Old habits die hard though so be patient!

(November 12, 2018 at 1:08 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think your argument is a fallacy. I get it I sound ridiculous the way I talk, but you don't actual believe that, and so it's a fallacy to engage in it.

When I provide the evidence, then you show if you have similar evidence, that leads to another conclusion by others. I doubt you can do it.

What fallacy, exactly, do you believe I’m engaging in?

I, personally, don’t need to actually believe it in order to use the analogy as a demonstration of your poor reasoning, MK. Millions of Christians believe exactly that.

So, I’ll ask again: if I can use the same reasons you use to believe Islam is true, to believe Christianity is true, what does that say about your reasons? What does it say about these reasons if they aren’t good enough to swing you over to Christianity?

I’ll give you a hint. They aren’t reasons at all. They’re feelings. You don’t seem to understand the difference.

(November 12, 2018 at 1:16 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(November 12, 2018 at 1:08 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think your argument is a fallacy. I get it I sound ridiculous the way I talk, but you don't actual believe that, and so it's a fallacy to engage in it.

When I provide the evidence, then you show if you have similar evidence, that leads to another conclusion by others. I doubt you can do it.

What fallacy, exactly, do you believe I’m engaging in?

It's a fallacy to engage with someone regarding something they believe and then say "well I Can say thing about this and that" while you don't actually believe you have an similar reasons nor you believe it.  I forget what it's called but it is a type of fallacy.

(November 12, 2018 at 1:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It's a fallacy to engage with someone regarding something they believe and then say "well I Can say thing about this and that" while you don't actually believe you have an similar reasons nor you believe it.  I forget what it's called but it is a type of fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies