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RE: Ask the Christian
October 2, 2011 at 8:02 pm
(October 2, 2011 at 7:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:It is clear from this particular passage that Jephthah intended to offer his daughter as a burnt offering
No, asshole. It is clear that he killed the bitch because of his vow to his fucking god.
Your reading comprehension is on the low side, huh?
Actually I did edit that post after you replied to it
Quote:It is clear from this particular passage that Jephthah "offered" his daughter as a burnt offering
Note the "" around the word offered.
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RE: Ask the Christian
October 2, 2011 at 8:43 pm
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(October 2, 2011 at 7:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer
Tell it to fucking "Jepthah." He doesn't seem to have gotten the memo.
Quote:It is clear from this particular passage that Jephthah intended to offer his daughter as a burnt offering
No, asshole. It is clear that he killed the bitch because of his vow to his fucking god.
Your reading comprehension is on the low side, huh?
What's clear is that you're the one with the paltry reading comprehension, and poor understanding of theology. Why do you think it says she went to the mountain for 2 months to mourn her virginity? Not her life, her virginity. Why do you think it states after he fulfilled his vow "And she had never been intimate with a man". Maybe because it was verifying her lifelong chastity? And do you honestly think women were going to be celebrating an outlaw human sacrifice for 4 days every year? That would be an awesome party, don't you think? Do you think they celebrated with a BBQ? There is no way this would have been acceptable..the guy would have been thrown out of the community or killed himself. Give it a rest.
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RE: Ask the Christian
October 2, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Cool story. So, you know what I want to see right?
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RE: Ask the Christian
October 3, 2011 at 5:17 am
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(October 2, 2011 at 9:44 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Cool story. So, you know what I want to see right?
Are you saying it is irrational to believe something without sufficient evidence?
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RE: Ask the Christian
October 3, 2011 at 5:22 am
(October 3, 2011 at 5:17 am)lucent Wrote: (October 2, 2011 at 9:44 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Cool story. So, you know what I want to see right?
Are you saying it is irrational to believe something without sufficient evidence?
 He gets it, ladies and gentleman!
It can be fun to believe things without sufficient evidence, but it isn't rational.
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RE: Ask the Christian
October 3, 2011 at 5:44 am
(October 3, 2011 at 5:22 am)aleialoura Wrote: (October 3, 2011 at 5:17 am)lucent Wrote: (October 2, 2011 at 9:44 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Cool story. So, you know what I want to see right?
Are you saying it is irrational to believe something without sufficient evidence?
He gets it, ladies and gentleman!
It can be fun to believe things without sufficient evidence, but it isn't rational.
Okay, do you have any evidence to prove your claim that it isn't rational to believe something without sufficient evidence?
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RE: Ask the Christian
October 3, 2011 at 6:47 am
(October 3, 2011 at 5:44 am)lucent Wrote: Okay, do you have any evidence to prove your claim that it isn't rational to believe something without sufficient evidence?
So you receive an email from a nigerian doctor (whom you've never heard of)claiming that he has access to 25 million dollars but he wants your bank account details so he can deposit the money in your account and then you can go halves.
Would you accept that or ask for more evidence?
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RE: Ask the Christian
October 3, 2011 at 7:06 am
(October 2, 2011 at 6:21 am)FutureAndAHope Wrote: To the verse which was mentioned about God's judgment on the youths who mocked the prophet of God. That is God performing a judgment, not man offering a sacrifice. I don't care whether it was a sacrifice or a judgement, your arsehole God sending two bears to savagely tear apart children for merely teasing some bald git for being bald is sick, twisted and abominable.
Were it you FutureAndAHope, were you god, wouldn't you suffer little children? Wouldn't you love them regardless of what they do? Wouldn't a remotely sane mind chasten them instead to show them the error of their ways?
If you say "no" then I want nothing more to do with you, or your corrupt god concept.
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RE: Ask the Christian
October 3, 2011 at 7:18 am
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(October 2, 2011 at 6:21 am)FutureAndAHope Wrote: To the verse which was mentioned about God's judgment on the youths who mocked the prophet of God. That is God performing a judgment, not man offering a sacrifice. And a very merciful and just judgement it was 
Quote:Luk 6:35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.
If being kind consists of having them mauled by bears that is.
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RE: Ask the Christian
October 3, 2011 at 7:36 am
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(October 3, 2011 at 6:47 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (October 3, 2011 at 5:44 am)lucent Wrote: Okay, do you have any evidence to prove your claim that it isn't rational to believe something without sufficient evidence?
So you receive an email from a nigerian doctor (whom you've never heard of)claiming that he has access to 25 million dollars but he wants your bank account details so he can deposit the money in your account and then you can go halves.
Would you accept that or ask for more evidence?
That is one example of a circumstance where belief without sufficient evidence would be irrational. It doesn't, however, prove the universal claim that all belief without evidence is irrational.
For instance, I believe that there is an external world beyond what I experience in my mind. There is no way to prove this, however, I choose to believe it anyway. Am I irrational to believe this? According to your proposition, I am.
This alone proves that the claim is logically self-refuting, because there isn't any evidence which could prove it is universally true. Therefore, it in itself is an irrational belief.
(October 3, 2011 at 7:06 am)Welsh cake Wrote: (October 2, 2011 at 6:21 am)FutureAndAHope Wrote: To the verse which was mentioned about God's judgment on the youths who mocked the prophet of God. That is God performing a judgment, not man offering a sacrifice. I don't care whether it was a sacrifice or a judgement, your arsehole God sending two bears to savagely tear apart children for merely teasing some bald git for being bald is sick, twisted and abominable.
Were it you FutureAndAHope, were you god, wouldn't you suffer little children? Wouldn't you love them regardless of what they do? Wouldn't a remotely sane mind chasten them instead to show them the error of their ways?
If you say "no" then I want nothing more to do with you, or your corrupt god concept.
I'll just repeat this post I made about this earlier..ie, they weren't children:
And as you were discussing earlier, in regards to the bears, those weren't "little children", they were young men. The words used to refer to the so-called children are ascribed to adults as old as 39.
Would a bunch of small children be allowed to roam around outisde the city by themselves without any supervision? Not only that but they were specifically mocking Elisha because he was a prophet..which shows they knew good from evil. The insult "go up, go up" is a mocking reference to his mentor Elijah, who was assumed into Heaven. So it was deliberate blasphemy against a prophet..that isn't going to come out of the mouth of babes.
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