"Objective value" is a contradiction in terms, so I reject the article as meaningless.

Unless the number 1 is a contradiction, that's not the case. 

(April 7, 2019 at 9:08 am)joe90 Wrote: Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

I would not agree.

1. evolution is not random. It is a selection process put on populations of organisms from various environmental pressures.
2. The fact that we are the result of evolutionary processes, does not mean we are purposeless or have no value. It is up to each of us to create our own purpose and value. Not sure why you would think purposelessness would follow from our being a product of evolution?

I really don't understand theists problem with this? Would you allow: your spouse, the university you attend, your career, your hobbies, the destination of vacations, etc, to be directed and chosen for you from external sources? Then why would you allow your purpose to be directed from external sources? This is one of the main things that defines totalitarian regimes.

3. my relationships are not meaningless to me NOW.
4. My goals go way beyond mere survival.

Why do you take care of your car? After all, one day all of it will only be decomposing metal, plastic, rubber, in the ground. The reason people take care of their cars, is because they have some importance to them NOW. What happens to the cars in the future after the car dies, is not important.

(April 7, 2019 at 9:08 am)joe90 Wrote: Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

And Conservapedia pulled it from "The World of Atheistic Implications", from the site "Worldview of Jesus". https://worldviewofjesus.com/2013/12/02/...lications/

Quote: "This blog is dedicated to promoting the “Worldview of Jesus” with confidence! The posts on this site are oriented towards the advancement of God’s Word through the practice of Christian apologetics in order to gain the necessary training to combat the aggressively expanding secular worldview. As Christians, we must not fear the topics of evil, moral relativism, evolution, cosmology, and the historicity of Jesus Christ. Christians should welcome any challenges from non-believers and use it as an opportunity to give an answer for the hope that we have within...".

So......... not really a valid take on the atheist view of things, is it. And not worth responding to.

Quote:A bit of advice: Trolling is a lot like lovemaking...albeit really, really bad lovemaking. 

Yabbut, when you're done trolling, you don't have to walk home alone in the dark.

Boru

(April 7, 2019 at 3:49 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:A bit of advice: Trolling is a lot like lovemaking...albeit really, really bad lovemaking. 

Yabbut, when you're done trolling, you don't have to walk home alone in the dark.

Boru

But, unlike lovemaking, you can never get rid of the stink.

(April 7, 2019 at 9:08 am)joe90 Wrote: Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

I think it's certainly possible. Is it knowably true? Not at this time. Opinions among professionals and laypersons on these questions vary widely and there is nothing approaching consensus on the matter. So the answer is that we simply don't know. And anyone that claims they do is likely simply peddling a privately held or minority held view.

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(April 7, 2019 at 3:49 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:A bit of advice: Trolling is a lot like lovemaking...albeit really, really bad lovemaking. 

Yabbut, when you're done trolling, you don't have to walk home alone in the dark.

Boru

Likely because you're already home alone in the dark.

(April 7, 2019 at 9:08 am)joe90 Wrote: Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

My life is  filled with purpose and I am long overdue for a vacation. A lack of purpose would be a break for once. Cognac and a crepe anyone?

(April 7, 2019 at 4:55 pm)chimp3 Wrote:

(April 7, 2019 at 9:08 am)joe90 Wrote: Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

My life is  filled with purpose and I am long overdue for a vacation. A lack of purpose would be a break for once. Cognac and a crepe anyone?

Stop flinging crepe at everyone, monkey!