Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 23, 2019, 3:56 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Would you agree?
#31
RE: Would you agree?
(April 7, 2019 at 4:58 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(April 7, 2019 at 4:55 pm)chimp3 Wrote: My life is  filled with purpose and I am long overdue for a vacation. A lack of purpose would be a break for once. Cognac and a crepe anyone?

Stop flinging crepe at everyone, monkey!

At least I have the courtesy of topping it with creme freche!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4zRe_wvJw8

It's a classic , take a look and smile!









Reply
#32
RE: Would you agree?
(April 7, 2019 at 9:08 am)joe90 Wrote: Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

Here I think you're conflating two views of things: the scientific and the human. To be fair to you, I think some atheists do the same thing.

Science works so well because it strictly delimits the field it studies. It eliminates a priori things like meaning and value. 

But people don't do this in their lives. We live in worlds of meaning and value, because we don't see the world as science does. 

As a tiny baby, about the first thing we are aware of is "mommy here: good," and "mommy not here: bad." It's this value judgment and others like it which cause us to become aware of the world. From the very beginning, then, we live in a world of values, meanings, desires, etc. That is, all the things science eliminates in order to do its work. 

Maybe some people say that only the things science studies are real, but all of those meanings and values are real to us. Very few of them are consciously chosen by each of us. They are already present when we become aware of the world, and so they exist, for people, as givens, just as the shape of the earth or the speed of light are givens.
Reply
#33
RE: Would you agree?
(April 7, 2019 at 9:08 am)joe90 Wrote: Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

In the sense of being without purpose in the divine sense i would agree. However humans re very good at making their own purpose. Relationships while meaningless in a divine sense aren't meaningless to me, we really don't need a god for these things.

As for evolution, so what ? believers are evolved too they just make up unsupported shit to make themselves fell better.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
Reply
#34
RE: Would you agree?
(April 7, 2019 at 5:25 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(April 7, 2019 at 4:58 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Stop flinging crepe at everyone, monkey!

At least I have the courtesy of topping it with creme freche!

I hope that's not a euphemism?
Sanity adjacent.


Angel





IMGUR 
Reply
#35
RE: Would you agree?
(April 7, 2019 at 7:30 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(April 7, 2019 at 5:25 pm)chimp3 Wrote: At least I have the courtesy of topping it with creme freche!

I hope that's not a euphemism?
Yes and I am an advanced chimp capable of flinging innuendos too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4zRe_wvJw8

It's a classic , take a look and smile!









Reply
#36
RE: Would you agree?
1: So op how long until you make another thread asking the same question again?

2: Over/Under on the op lasting more than a few weeks here?
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

FSM Grin
Lost Sheep I've defeated with the power of FSM:  Clickable Link  Newest member: Soldierofgod Most Defeated: Drippy Drich
Reply
#37
RE: Would you agree?
(April 7, 2019 at 9:08 am)joe90 Wrote: Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

[Image: 820.jpg]

If anyone is great at making someone feel worthless, it is god.
Reply
#38
RE: Would you agree?
(April 7, 2019 at 8:58 pm)Kit Wrote:
(April 7, 2019 at 9:08 am)joe90 Wrote: Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

[Image: 820.jpg]

If anyone is great at making someone feel worthless, it is god.


Yep, theists have Stockholm syndrome, and are happy about it.

They praise living in a totalitarian universe, when they would hate living in a totalitarian country.

As I've stated before one of the worst possible universes I could imagine living in, is one where the Christian god actually existed.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
Reply
#39
RE: Would you agree?
(April 7, 2019 at 9:08 am)joe90 Wrote: Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

I disagree. There are tons of meaningful things in life. Just because evolution got us here doesn't mean it decides what is and isn't meaningful.
Reply
#40
RE: Would you agree?
Oh, and Conservapedia?

Really?
Sanity adjacent.


Angel





IMGUR 
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Which religion would be easiest for you if you had to be in one? Fake Messiah 31 289 July 17, 2019 at 2:26 am
Last Post: Losty
  Atheists: What would you say to a dying child who asks you if they'll go to heaven? DodosAreDead 91 3059 November 2, 2018 at 9:07 pm
Last Post: LadyForCamus
  If you could replace god with satan, would you? Fierce 37 2343 April 28, 2018 at 10:02 pm
Last Post: Amarok
  Would you as an atheist EVER do this? Alexmahone 41 2642 December 6, 2017 at 10:47 pm
Last Post: Cecelia
  Would you rather purplepurpose 11 957 November 30, 2017 at 2:26 pm
Last Post: Brian37
  Would you like to be immortal? Little Rik 188 8022 February 20, 2017 at 8:43 am
Last Post: Little Rik
  What would you consider to be evidence for God? Psychonaut 591 82957 December 29, 2016 at 3:53 pm
Last Post: Astreja
  What would you do with an empty church? Casca 55 3001 October 31, 2016 at 7:19 am
Last Post: Mr Greene
  If the bible/quran/whatever was better, would you've remained theist? A Handmaid 23 1912 September 14, 2016 at 7:08 am
Last Post: paulpablo
  do you worry about if anything bad would happen if christianity died? Rextos 26 2803 February 13, 2016 at 3:05 am
Last Post: Ivan Denisovich



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)