Would you agree?

[chimp3]

My life is  filled with purpose and I am long overdue for a vacation. A lack of purpose would be a break for once. Cognac and a crepe anyone?

Stop flinging crepe at everyone, monkey!

At least I have the courtesy of topping it with creme freche!

[Belacqua]

Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

Here I think you're conflating two views of things: the scientific and the human. To be fair to you, I think some atheists do the same thing.

Science works so well because it strictly delimits the field it studies. It eliminates a priori things like meaning and value. 

But people don't do this in their lives. We live in worlds of meaning and value, because we don't see the world as science does. 

As a tiny baby, about the first thing we are aware of is "mommy here: good," and "mommy not here: bad." It's this value judgment and others like it which cause us to become aware of the world. From the very beginning, then, we live in a world of values, meanings, desires, etc. That is, all the things science eliminates in order to do its work. 

Maybe some people say that only the things science studies are real, but all of those meanings and values are real to us. Very few of them are consciously chosen by each of us. They are already present when we become aware of the world, and so they exist, for people, as givens, just as the shape of the earth or the speed of light are givens.

[possibletarian]

Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

In the sense of being without purpose in the divine sense i would agree. However humans re very good at making their own purpose. Relationships while meaningless in a divine sense aren't meaningless to me, we really don't need a god for these things.

As for evolution, so what ? believers are evolved too they just make up unsupported shit to make themselves fell better.

[The Valkyrie]

Stop flinging crepe at everyone, monkey!

At least I have the courtesy of topping it with creme freche!

I hope that's not a euphemism?

[chimp3]

At least I have the courtesy of topping it with creme freche!

I hope that's not a euphemism?

Yes and I am an advanced chimp capable of flinging innuendos too!

[Nay_Sayer]

1: So op how long until you make another thread asking the same question again?

2: Over/Under on the op lasting more than a few weeks here?

[Silver]

Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

If anyone is great at making someone feel worthless, it is god.

[Simon Moon]

Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

If anyone is great at making someone feel worthless, it is god.

Yep, theists have Stockholm syndrome, and are happy about it.

They praise living in a totalitarian universe, when they would hate living in a totalitarian country.

As I've stated before one of the worst possible universes I could imagine living in, is one where the Christian god actually existed.

[vulcanlogician]

Would you agree with the quote below? Why or why not? I pulled it from Conservapedia.org incase you're wondering.


“Humanity is purposeless. You have no value. You’re a meaningless product of a random evolutionary process that initially developed from the spawn of a single-celled organism. The relationships you derive are also meaningless. Everything that you do in this life has no objective value. You’re living day-to-day only to accomplish the goal of mere survival.”

I disagree. There are tons of meaningful things in life. Just because evolution got us here doesn't mean it decides what is and isn't meaningful.

[The Valkyrie]

Oh, and Conservapedia?

Really?