(May 14, 2019 at 3:45 pm)Drich Wrote:

(May 14, 2019 at 3:09 pm)madog Wrote: Your anology was about an adult with a position of trust fucking a child  ..... similar to priests, misnisters etc ....

Why you would want to raise paedophilia and rape to make a point is beyond me  ...  

no... that is what you turn it into, my intellectually dishonest little atheist buddy...

I said a 16 or 17 year old female baby sitter had spontanious sex with a very mature 10 year old. the question was is this rape. if so (second part of the question) should the 16 year old girl be thrown into federal prison made to do the max the gov allows and then upon release be viewed as a state mandated sexual predator.

That my dishonest atheist buddy was the first question.. while some of you could see the technical side of statior rape and identified rape NONE OF YOU Where Willing To Ruin This Girl's life over this consensual act. Again I pointed even the legit child services person among you was looking for reasons to excuse the baby sitter citing her own personal experience on cases like this she dealt with! You where no different.

The second question was about a married couple. but you knew this going in.. you answered the first 1/2 of the first question and even then tried to spin the narrative by making it sound like I was not asking a question at all by providing my approval. This intention to smear me shows you intentionally misrepresented the question from the beginning.and now you are doing so to try and escape my final conclusion that you and your buddies are the same type of monsters the OP makes catholics and other christians out to be for technically allowing the same thing in your heart/mind.

The first part of your questions were clearly answered:

Fucking a child under any circumstances is rape ...

Fucking a woman/wife after she says no is rape ...

The second part of your questions were clearly flawed:

How can anyone give an opinion on punishment without knowing the facts?

I doubt that not knowing facts will give Drich a single moments pause.  Never has in the past.

(May 14, 2019 at 4:53 pm)madog Wrote:

(May 14, 2019 at 3:45 pm)Drich Wrote: no... that is what you turn it into, my intellectually dishonest little atheist buddy...

I said a 16 or 17 year old female baby sitter had spontanious sex with a very mature 10 year old. the question was is this rape. if so (second part of the question) should the 16 year old girl be thrown into federal prison made to do the max the gov allows and then upon release be viewed as a state mandated sexual predator.

That my dishonest atheist buddy was the first question.. while some of you could see the technical side of statior rape and identified rape NONE OF YOU Where Willing To Ruin This Girl's life over this consensual act. Again I pointed even the legit child services person among you was looking for reasons to excuse the baby sitter citing her own personal experience on cases like this she dealt with! You where no different.

The second question was about a married couple. but you knew this going in.. you answered the first 1/2 of the first question and even then tried to spin the narrative by making it sound like I was not asking a question at all by providing my approval. This intention to smear me shows you intentionally misrepresented the question from the beginning.and now you are doing so to try and escape my final conclusion that you and your buddies are the same type of monsters the OP makes catholics and other christians out to be for technically allowing the same thing in your heart/mind.

The first part of your questions were clearly answered:

Fucking a child under any circumstances is rape ...

Fucking a woman/wife after she says no is rape ...

The second part of your questions were clearly flawed:

How can anyone give an opinion on punishment without knowing the facts?

all the facts where given in my opening post sport. again like just now in you above statement. you are not addressing what I have written. you changed the narritive inorder to try and find the moral high ground.

Again first question was two underage kids having sex rape?

Second part of first question should the lder child be convicted of rape and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and then upon release be made to register as a sexual predator for the rest of her life?

Those are my question you intellectually dishonest piece of sorghum.. (POS for short) where did I ever say an adult is involved in haveing sex with a child? no where! you added that and continue to do so over and over and over again despite my efforts to enlighten you. That perversion is yours. Again my senerio involes 2 under ge kids..

Again if two kid have sex is it rape and should the older one be treated to the fullest extent of the law?

And again second scenario it is sex night for a older couple the wife allows sex but does not want it. and dude goes for like 2 hours on his wife. agin is this rape? 

THOSE are my questions which have nothing to do with anything you answered.

Now I know why you keep answering your questions rather than mine. because you know if you answered me honestly you would be caught up in my little 'morality trap.' so rather than answer my questions you answer the question you wish I asked.

That is the mark of a dishonest person who has no personal intergrity and will say or do anything to not learn anything new. a close minded 'thinker'.

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(May 14, 2019 at 5:24 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I doubt that not knowing facts will give Drich a single moments pause.  Never has in the past.

that all you got?

I just blew you out of the water, showed you and your buddies to be 'moral' hypocrites on par with the priests who cover up for child molesters, how bout them facts sport?

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does it concern anyone that by this example their morality has failed them?

That on one hand you can condemn a whole religion for forgiving priests, but given the right circumstance you are willing to do the same for a care giver put in charge of a child? Yet show anger and disdain against a man having legal sex with his wife?

Or will you just keep pretending you are always on the side of right?

It never occurs to you that this constant epic pwnage of everyone around you is only happening in your own mind, does it?

Normal people, a set which necessarily excludes yourself, don't have much trouble distinguishing between rape, statutory rape, and unenthusiastic sex. There's nothing contradictory or hypocritical in approaching three different things three different ways.

A guy having unenthusiastic but legal sex with his wife is meh. We've all been there, lol. A minor having sex with another minor is statutory, neither can legally consent. A priest fucking children is rape.

How hard is this, really?

(May 15, 2019 at 2:14 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: It never occurs to you that this constant epic pwnage of everyone around you is only happening in your own mind, does it?

gae/lame.. maybe if you provide something to support your position oncein a great while..

Why do you always piss and moan as if your own idiocy is someone else's fault, Drich?

You can't figure out why people treat three different things three different ways. So what, that's a you problem. Here's a question. Is "pop morality hypocrisy" anything more than whatever set of things you just can't bring yourself to comprehend? I find myself asking you this question, in a thread where you're going to bat for child molesters, by attacking the people who rightly point out that they are offenders of the worst sort, as hypocrites, somehow™.

Talk about a waste of human space.

(May 15, 2019 at 2:14 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: It never occurs to you that this constant epic pwnage of everyone around you is only happening in your own mind, does it?

gae/lame.. maybe if you provide something to support your position oncein a great while.. meanwhile I can source and support everything i have to say.

That is the difference between you and I.

You see what you know as a standard and your word is enough.

I see myself as an appointed researcher. meaning my word my belief means nothing without support and or proof. so before I ever say anything I find a legitimate source or three then construct a argument around it.

which is why I know I am right most of the time.

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(May 15, 2019 at 2:27 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Why do you always piss and moan as if your own idiocy is someone else's fault, Drich?

You can't figure out why people treat three different things three different ways.  So what, that's a you problem.  Here's a question.  Is "pop morality hypocrisy" anything more than whatever set of things you just can't bring yourself to comprehend?

You see yourself as alot of things, none of them particularly lucid.

(May 15, 2019 at 2:38 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: You see yourself as alot of things, none of them particularly lucid.

if lucidity means to be close minded with a strong dislike of anything that would force me to think differently or that would force me to view things from a different perspective then no thanks. I would rather not make sense to a religious bigot who hates everything God and does not fully understands what he hates. i would much rather be a loon in the bigots eyes because I can see understand and live in a bigger world than he does.

Or don't you get that? that people who live in a freedom that you do not know or understand know more of the world than your little dark corner of it! This is what makes enlighten people strange to the person shackled to one single way of thought one single right way of looking at things.

Yes, clearly, that's what lucidity means.  I'm sure you spent ages researching that, so you know that you're right.