(May 21, 2019 at 4:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:"My favorite" is not how you talk about a deadly tool. 

Well, I have a favourite sword, a favourite axe, and a favourite chisel.  Is that ok, or should I call them something else?

Boru

Not the same. I had my "favorite" WW2 fighter plane at one time. But it isn't legal for civilians to use a fully armed Corsair in public.

He isn't treating that the same when he talks about it. He is delusional in that he does not understand it is not a toy. I am sure you can find cops and military that have "favorite weapons" too. But the ones who understand impact and use, of and seriousness of it, also know the meaning of time place and context and treat those deadly objects tools. They also understand that not everyone should use them.

You cant take a sword or axe or chisel 32 stories up in a hotel and murder 50plus people in minutes.

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Spray weapons are not designed for "fun", rapid fire spray weapons are designed to cause quick damage to more people in a quicker period.

(May 21, 2019 at 4:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 21, 2019 at 4:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, I have a favourite sword, a favourite axe, and a favourite chisel.  Is that ok, or should I call them something else?

Boru

Not the same. I had my "favorite" WW2 fighter plane at one time. But it isn't legal for civilians to use a fully armed Corsair in public.

He isn't treating that the same when he talks about it. He is delusional in that he does not understand it is not a toy. I am sure you can find cops and military that have "favorite weapons" too. But the ones who understand impact and use, of and seriousness of it, also know the meaning of time place and context and treat those deadly objects tools. They also understand that not everyone should use them.

You cant take a sword or axe or chisel 32 stories up in a hotel and murder 50plus people in minutes.

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Spray weapons are not designed for "fun", rapid fire spray weapons are designed to cause quick damage to more people in a quicker period.

Well, my sword, axe and chisel are all deadly tools.  But why can't a civilian who likes guns describe one as a 'favourite'?  If it shoots well, functions properly, and so forth, it can be their favourite.  It just means the one they like the most.

Don't be so uptight.

Boru

(May 21, 2019 at 4:45 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(May 21, 2019 at 4:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, I have a favourite sword, a favourite axe, and a favourite chisel.  Is that ok, or should I call them something else?

Boru

I have a favorite Browning M2 .50 cal. Heavy Machine Gun. Fully automatic, licensed and legal.

Gawszillia, we are not talking about one person, and I am not talking about you. You know that. In a perfect world if everyone thought like you, we would not have the problems we do, or the amount of firearm violence we do.

I am talking about long term policy and long term collective attitude about firearms, not any one person.

You know I suffer from anxiety and depression, but unlike other firearm owners, you accept that it would not be a good idea for me to own a firearm. Unfortunately our laws don't vet at time of sale to prevent someone with my mental illness from getting one.

And as far as big rounds, and high capacity clips and rapid fire spray weapons, again, we are not talking about a perfect world where everyone thinks like you. 

It just seems more pragmatic to limit clip sizes, ban battle field weapons, and vet at the time of sale rather than wait till something bad happens.

(May 21, 2019 at 5:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 21, 2019 at 4:45 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I have a favorite Browning M2 .50 cal. Heavy Machine Gun. Fully automatic, licensed and legal.

Gawszillia, we are not talking about one person, and I am not talking about you. You know that. In a perfect world if everyone thought like you, we would not have the problems we do, or the amount of firearm violence we do.

I am talking about long term policy and long term collective attitude about firearms, not any one person.

You know I suffer from anxiety and depression, but unlike other firearm owners, you accept that it would not be a good idea for me to own a firearm. Unfortunately our laws don't vet at time of sale to prevent someone with my mental illness from getting one.

And as far as big rounds, and high capacity clips and rapid fire spray weapons, again, we are not talking about a perfect world where everyone thinks like you. 

It just seems more pragmatic to limit clip sizes, ban battle field weapons, and vet at the time of sale rather than wait till something bad happens.

Oh, so some people can have a favourite firearm, then?

Boru

(May 21, 2019 at 4:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:"My favorite" is not how you talk about a deadly tool. 

Well, I have a favourite sword, a favourite axe, and a favourite chisel.  Is that ok, or should I call them something else?

Boru

I have a favourite sword. It's a replica of Connor MacLeod's from Highlander.

Don't have an axe.

And my favourite Chisel is Cold Chisel.

(May 21, 2019 at 5:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 21, 2019 at 4:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Not the same. I had my "favorite" WW2 fighter plane at one time. But it isn't legal for civilians to use a fully armed Corsair in public.

He isn't treating that the same when he talks about it. He is delusional in that he does not understand it is not a toy. I am sure you can find cops and military that have "favorite weapons" too. But the ones who understand impact and use, of and seriousness of it, also know the meaning of time place and context and treat those deadly objects tools. They also understand that not everyone should use them.

You cant take a sword or axe or chisel 32 stories up in a hotel and murder 50plus people in minutes.

---

Spray weapons are not designed for "fun", rapid fire spray weapons are designed to cause quick damage to more people in a quicker period.

Well, my sword, axe and chisel are all deadly tools.  But why can't a civilian who likes guns describe one as a 'favourite'?  If it shoots well, functions properly, and so forth, it can be their favourite.  It just means the one they like the most.

Don't be so uptight.

Boru

This isn't about me, should the victims of Newtown, Vegas and Parkland not be so "uptight"? If you are willing to tell me not to be so "uptight" say the same thing to those victims, survivors and family members.

Again, there is no such thing as a "high capacity rapid fire sword, axe or chisel".

(May 21, 2019 at 5:08 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 21, 2019 at 5:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, my sword, axe and chisel are all deadly tools.  But why can't a civilian who likes guns describe one as a 'favourite'?  If it shoots well, functions properly, and so forth, it can be their favourite.  It just means the one they like the most.

Don't be so uptight.

Boru

This isn't about me, should the victims of Newtown, Vegas and Parkland not be so "uptight"? If you are willing to tell me not to be so "uptight" say the same thing to those victims, survivors and family members.

Again, there is no such thing as a "high capacity rapid fire sword, axe or chisel".

But you said that 'favourite' isn't a word that should be used to describe a deadly tool. Can you clarify that?

Boru

edit:  And before it becomes an issue, I am NOT trying to bait you, I'm just pointing out that ANYTHING can be someone's favourite.

(May 21, 2019 at 5:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 21, 2019 at 4:45 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I have a favorite Browning M2 .50 cal. Heavy Machine Gun. Fully automatic, licensed and legal.

Gawszillia, we are not talking about one person, and I am not talking about you. You know that. In a perfect world if everyone thought like you, we would not have the problems we do, or the amount of firearm violence we do.

I am talking about long term policy and long term collective attitude about firearms, not any one person.

You know I suffer from anxiety and depression, but unlike other firearm owners, you accept that it would not be a good idea for me to own a firearm. Unfortunately our laws don't vet at time of sale to prevent someone with my mental illness from getting one.

And as far as big rounds, and high capacity clips and rapid fire spray weapons, again, we are not talking about a perfect world where everyone thinks like you. 

It just seems more pragmatic to limit clip sizes, ban battle field weapons, and vet at the time of sale rather than wait till something bad happens.

I've rarely disagreed with you.

(May 21, 2019 at 5:27 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(May 21, 2019 at 5:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Gawszillia, we are not talking about one person, and I am not talking about you. You know that. In a perfect world if everyone thought like you, we would not have the problems we do, or the amount of firearm violence we do.

I am talking about long term policy and long term collective attitude about firearms, not any one person.

You know I suffer from anxiety and depression, but unlike other firearm owners, you accept that it would not be a good idea for me to own a firearm. Unfortunately our laws don't vet at time of sale to prevent someone with my mental illness from getting one.

And as far as big rounds, and high capacity clips and rapid fire spray weapons, again, we are not talking about a perfect world where everyone thinks like you. 

It just seems more pragmatic to limit clip sizes, ban battle field weapons, and vet at the time of sale rather than wait till something bad happens.

I've rarely disagreed with you.

On this subject I always see that. And appreciate it.

There is a huge difference between a firearm worshiper and a firearm owner. You are an owner, not a worshiper.

Drooler logic - limiting magazine capacity saves lives!


Jesus fuck on a crutch.

How do you figure that? You have data to prove it? 

No? Big surprise.


It SOUNDS good. That' s  your data.


Changing a magazine is easy and quick - AS IT IS DESIGNED TO BE. Regardless of what you might have seen in a movie - you will not have " time to rush a shooter while he is changing magazines". You will in all probability simply make yourself his next available target.

The reality - if all a shooter has is 10 round magazines - he is less likely to pull a trigger on an empty chamber - because he can easily count and keep track of how many rounds are left in the magazine. A halfway trained moron can count to ten.

Thus - by  likely by limiting magazine size - lone gunman shooters may become more effective and more deadly.


But don' t take that into account - just go for those laws that SOUND good.