(June 18, 2019 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: are intentionally being obstinate or do you not know there is a major divide between communism and socialism? 

There is also a major divide between first world socialism and welfare capitalism. The Trumpers think welfare capitalism is "socialism" but it ain't. That's because they get their information from Fox News.

Welfare capitalism is a safety net for people who can't manage for themselves. (I actually agree with the Fox News folks that America ought to dial this down a bit.)

Socialism is providing resources for the working class, whether they can manage for themselves or not. (While we're dialing down welfare, we ought to dial up socialism. That's what this country needs right now.)

(June 19, 2019 at 11:04 am)Drich Wrote:

(June 19, 2019 at 10:54 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Do you have a citation from the mueller report or not?

YES I DO!

Now you're lying, in all caps...lol..... about having a citation that you lied about. 

Your fox soap operas and internet conspiracy theories are not a citation from the mueller report.  You have been provided with a citation from the mueller report.  

Tell me how much you hate fake news.

(June 19, 2019 at 10:59 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: So, no?  Well, go get one..then, then you can pwn the libtards.

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Here, in the meantime, is a citation from the mueller report.

Quote:This report is submitted to the Attorney General pursuant to 28 C.F.R. § 600.8©, which states that, “[a]t the conclusion of the Special Counsel’s work, he ... shall provide the Attorney General a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions [the Special Counsel] reached.”
The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016. In June, the Democratic National Committee and its cyber response team publicly announced that Russian hackers had compromised its computer network. Releases of hacked materials—hacks that public reporting soon attributed to the Russian government—began that same month. Additional releases followed in July through the organization WikiLeaks, with further releases in October and November.
In late July 2016, soon after WikiLeaks’s first release of stolen documents, a foreign government contacted the FBI about a May 2016 encounter with Trump Campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos had suggested to a representative of that foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. That information prompted the FBI on July 31, 2016, to open an investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump Campaign were coordinating with the Russian government in its interference activities.
That fall, two federal agencies jointly announced that the Russian government “directed recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including US political organizations,” and, “[t]hese thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.” After the election, in late December 2016, the United States imposed sanctions on Russia for having interfered in the election. By early 2017, several congressional committees were examining Russia’s interference in the election.
Within the Executive Branch, these investigatory efforts ultimately led to the May 2017 appointment of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III. The order appointing the Special Counsel authorized him to investigate “the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,” including any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign.

This states that it was not steeles dossier that "kicked off the whole russia investigation".  

Your idiotic presidents idiotic son and their idiotic treason meeting, along with the fact that his idiotic campaign staff was bragging about being compromised to foreign governments, and in light of the fact that Russia did interfere in our election - is what "kicked off the whole russia investigation".

  are you intentionally trying to bait and switch the topic? or are you too stupid to understand that mueller investigated more than one thing? russian tampering was one issue which again trump was exonerated from. however it allow mueller to investigate trumps team. Another was trump personal involvement with russian to try and change the out come of the election. did trump seek out or receive any intel on his opponents or did trump use russia to plant evidence or stories? The dossier was used as primary evidence to investigate trump himself! All the hacking/leaks allowed muller to do was investigate trumps people or team. but to go after trump they needed evidence of trump's personal involvement with the russian government during the campaign. Again that was what the dossier was all about the false dossier christopher steele literally invented and sold to a company clintons have ties to and is funded by the clinton foundation, and the DNC which then purchased by 'fusion gps' and turned over to the doj.

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(June 19, 2019 at 11:10 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(June 19, 2019 at 11:04 am)Drich Wrote: YES I DO!

Now you're lying, in all caps...lol..... about having a citation that you lied about. 

Your fox soap operas and internet conspiracy theories are not a citation from the mueller report.  You have been provided with a citation from the mueller report.  

Tell me how much you hate fake news.

Again moron the government via lindsey Gramm is open an investigation via the false dossier clinton's provided via fusion gps. like it or not the dossier that was used to try and impeech trump is now being used to drain the swamp/oust the federal employees and elected officals who tried to use the dossier as evidence to impeech trump.

Drich says

Quote:The mueller report shows the only people dealing with russia was Clinton's team buying the false dossier that kicked off the whole russia investigation.

The mueller report says

Quote:..Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016.
..Papadopoulos had suggested to a representative of that foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

Who am I going to believe, you or my lying fucking eyes.  Who are you going to believe?  Fox news, or your lying fucking eyes.

I'm uninterested in your Qanon fever dreams about draining the swamp with the mueller report by imprisoning all the clintons the trump admin can round up. You said the mueller report showed something. It doesn't. What it shows is that you are a habitual consumer of fake news.

(June 19, 2019 at 11:23 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Drich says

Quote:The mueller report shows the only people dealing with russia was Clinton's team buying the false dossier that kicked off the whole russia investigation.

The mueller report says

Quote:..Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016.
..Papadopoulos had suggested to a representative of that foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

Who am I going to believe, you or my lying fucking eyes.  Who are you going to believe?  Fox news, or your lying fucking eyes.

Your cherry picking means nothing..

The charge was trump manipulated or was a coconspiritor with russia, not that russia on it's own tried to manipulate the elections. no one disputes russia working against clinton.the crime is trump paying or working with russia against clinton.

And your quote pappy suggested pappy did not even make an accusation moron! someone simply took his words and formulated an accusation.

That what this whole thing was about to try and find evidence of trump russia COLLUSION meaning trump and russia working together... IF YOU KEEP READING NO CoLluSION WAS FOUND OUT SIDE OF THE DOSSIER WHICH CLINTON PAID FOR!!!!

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To which I have 5 news clips of senators who have access to the full report verifying this statement one of which is opening his own investigation against all of the players who pushed this fake dossier! Again may not be good enough for a intellectually dishonest T-wht such as yourself, but it is good enough for the DOJ and the rest of the federal government.

So who am I to believe? a cherry picking intellectually dishonest "DIM" or the federal government who says the clintons as well as a good part of the swamp colluded with various agencies to try and impeach a president on false/manufactured evidence!

Where, if I keep reading, will I find that?  Do you have a citation from the mueller report?

You keep reading till you get to the point where mueller declares there was no evidence of any collusion between russia and trump. JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD!

As far as the dossier is concerned again it has been redacted but given access to the senate congress and the doj.. to which I posted several senators congressmen and people from the doj who have read these redacted portions and all say the same thing. clintons paid for this russian supported report compiled by christopher steele.The link below explains the dossier or a good portion of it is redacted as it is apart of a current INVESTIGATION!!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...bb7df7b2bd
And again because of this senator gramm is starting his own investigation against all parties including mullers team about the point in which they knew the report was false. because at that moment the fisa warrants they obtained using this report where invalid and so too any evidence collected after the fact which should have ended the trump investigation then and there.

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(June 19, 2019 at 11:07 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(June 18, 2019 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: are intentionally being obstinate or do you not know there is a major divide between communism and socialism? 

There is also a major divide between first world socialism and welfare capitalism. The Trumpers think welfare capitalism is "socialism" but it ain't. That's because they get their information from Fox News.

Welfare capitalism is a safety net for people who can't manage for themselves. (I actually agree with the Fox News folks that America ought to dial this down a bit.)

Socialism is providing resources for the working class, whether they can manage for themselves or not. (While we're dialing down welfare, we ought to dial up socialism. That's what this country needs right now.)

Do you even listen to your canidates speak before you just assign them the middle ground?





Economic rights are human rights... meaning everyone has the right to the same money and opportunities! That sportis the very foundation the nazis used to pilifer everything the jews had... granted he is not going after a race but a whole social class to underwrite the funding needed to grant the have nots with this basic human right!

So, no.   You don't have a citation from the mueller report for that either.

Buddy, it's alright to say that you think the fbi is wrong. Hell, the god emperor just said exactly that..about exactly this. You'll still actually be wrong..I'm just telling you that you don't have to twist yourself into knots to get there anymore than you needed to lie about what the mueller report showed, or what I'd find if I kept reading..after the portion that showed you were plainly and simply wrong.

I will not find any of this qanon bullshit in the mueller report - and you know that.

So....stop.

Um... okay.

Have fun supporting your Golden Adulterer, you principled Christian, you.

Not surprised to see that D-Rich worships a narcissistic lying tyrant.

Oh and he supports Trump too, so that's two of them he worships!