trump announces his bid for reelection!

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

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1.  No, drawing large crowds does not mean you will remain in power.  While the sort of people who attend rallies are likely to vote, not all likely voters attend rallies.

dumbest thing I ever heard. do you have an example of a candidate who drew 20,000+ people to an event consistently and lost the election to a person who struggled to bring out 200 people? Of course you don't! why? because if a man or woman is willing to wait hours if not days in a line over 2 miles long to get in to see a man speak dozens of miles if not hundreds of miles away... why who they not then turn out to vote for the same man a few miles away with a max hour wait time if it is not an in and out process?

2.  Precisely my point.  The size of a crowd that attends a political rally has absolutely nothing to do with that individual's qualities as a leader.  It was stupid of you to compare the size of Trump's crowd to Biden's. Trump is a boob.  If he draws ten million people to a rally, he's still a boob.  If he draws just two people and a choleric dog, the boobosity remains intact.

 there is no discernable logic here to refute... this is just your personal blather to which you are entitled to. I won't smash it for the sake of doing so.
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1. I should have that example for you in about 16 months.

2.  You won't smash it because you can't.  If large crowds were indicative of quality, you'd have to say that the Pope, Hitler, and Mussolini were not boobs.

Boru

[downbeatplumb]

are intentionally being obstinate or do you not know there is a major divide between communism and socialism? Ask stallin and hitler if they are compatible.. if so why did million fight eacth other to install their own personal ism in each others home land?

I see now. You don't know what socialism is.

Tis a common American failing.

[Anomalocaris]

Um... okay.

Have fun supporting your Golden Adulterer, you principled Christian, you.

The only principle of Christianity is sin is no sin when committed in the name of Jesus.

[downbeatplumb]

Heres someone else who drew large crowds.

Another Hitler Wannabe, Just like the fat failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh5prbrEuC0

[Drich]

So, no.   You don't have a citation from the mueller report for that either.

Buddy, it's alright to say that you think the fbi is wrong.  Hell, the god emperor just said exactly that..about exactly this.  You'll still actually be wrong..I'm just telling you that you don't have to twist yourself into knots to get there anymore than you needed to lie about what the mueller report showed, or what I'd find if I kept reading..after the portion that showed you were plainly and simply wrong.

I will not find any of this qanon bullshit in the mueller report - and you know that.

So....stop.

Moron. unless you have top secret clearance you can not have direct access to the complete muller report. as the dossier is but one of the parts of the report under current DOJ investigation it has all been redacted from public viewing. However the senate and the house has been granted access to said redacted portions. These senators I posted clips of have not only read the redacted portions they are or have created a special consul on the russian collusion clinton and Steele had with the russians in compiling the dossier which they used to falsely accuse the president of the united states with.

Again this is the closest anyone without top secret credentials has to a primary source concerning what the muller report has to say concerning the dossier. Do you understand how source material is raked or identified? there is no greater evidence than primary source material. to have a us congressman or senator which I provided 4 all confirm my conclusion of the only russian collusion the muller report identifies is with those involved with the dossier.

Again only an intellectually dishonest pos would deny the vetted word several US senators who went public and is recorded concerning the nature of the redacted sections of this report 

You can pretend not having the redacted section means something but you I and everyone else knows the truth despite your disingenuous protest.

[The Grand Nudger]

The new contention, then, is that even though the mueller report doesn't show what you say it did, and does actually contend otherwise..the redacted portions will directly contradict unredacted ones.......?

Fine, go full on batshit crazy...but first, let's get a little commitment to the truth.  The mueller report doesn't show anything you said it did, and you have no citations for any of it.

Is that or is that not correct?

[Drich]

are intentionally being obstinate or do you not know there is a major divide between communism and socialism? Ask stallin and hitler if they are compatible.. if so why did million fight eacth other to install their own personal ism in each others home land?

I see now. You don't know what socialism is.

Tis a common American failing.

then please educate me sport.. show me where my failing is when I said russia was communist and hitler was the fuhrer of the national socialist of germany..

because one of you douche bags is using the word socialism and communism interchangeable as if he did not know the difference or there was a difference...yet here you chime in like some loose who does not understand the point of the quote you are responding to was to show a difference between communism and socialism...

So again dummy show me educate me make me out to be a fool thinking that socialism is not communism and that 60 million people did not die between germany and the USSR during WWII because on side where communist and the other where socialist!

Otherwise put your foot back in your mouth and STFU and you might learn something.

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The new contention, then, is that even though the mueller report doesn't show what you say it did, and does actually contend otherwise..the redacted portions will directly contradict unredacted ones.......?

Fine, go full on batshit crazy...but first, let's get a little commitment to the truth.  The mueller report doesn't show anything you said it did, and you have no citations for any of it.

Is that or is that not correct?

Again just play the first video sport.

I forgot which senator it was but he says the redacted portions show that the dossier being sourced by Steele having russian origins because that is under a current federal investigation ( which what the last video shows is lindsey graham senator from NC) putting together a special prosecutor to go after all who were involved with the dossier that again was the catalyst sponsered all the fisa warrants to allow the fbi and other to syp and gather info on trump and his staffers. once the dossier was found to be false the whole investigation should have ended. That's the point of the Graham probe is to find out who knew what and when.

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Also everything you quoted from the mueller investigation was their expressed intention. they want to find collusion they want to find evidence that trump did... the conclusions and the evidence shown was he had nothing to do with the things the russian governement was doing. but the fake news has intentionally blurred the lines between the guilt of the russians actions in the 2016 election and trump involvement. they act like because the russians are indeed guilty, that trump had anything to do with that is the same. the mueller investigation says over and over there is no evidence after 2 1/2 years and 25 million dollars that trump had anything to do with this

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again the redact portion does show russian collusion via the dossier which again is redacted. So one more time there is evidence russia tampered with the election. just not with trump. the fake news makes it seem the evidence of collusion is all trump when again he had nothing to do with it. when in fact the probe shows the only russian collusion came the way of the dossier.

So why would russia play both sides? different factions of us politics also have their counter parts in russia. plus if we fight each other in a cue or civil war russia is in a win win situation.

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Uhm...... yeah while the Nazi's had the word 'Socialist' in their title they were Fascists like Musolini in Italy and Franco in Spain at the time.

While there are certainly elements of socialism in communism....... they have some fundamental differences.

Like the whole "Dictator at the top gets to tell every one what to do. Or else." kind of thing Communism and Fascism had going on.

Cheers.

[GUBU]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Biden doesn't have the best chance to beat Trump. He is the DNC establishment pick, though, so they're going to push him instead of the candidates that are more popular with young voters.

I'm honestly surprised Trump plans to run again, given how unhappy he seems to be a lot of the time. The fact that he has any chance of winning says a lot about how the country is being run.

And the anti-democratic nature of the presidential election and how state governments can gimp the vote.

[The Grand Nudger]

The new contention, then, is that even though the mueller report doesn't show what you say it did, and does actually contend otherwise..the redacted portions will directly contradict unredacted ones.......?

Fine, go full on batshit crazy...but first, let's get a little commitment to the truth.  The mueller report doesn't show anything you said it did, and you have no citations for any of it.

Is that or is that not correct?

Again just play the first video sport.

Fine, go full on batshit crazy...but first, let's get a little commitment to the truth.  The mueller report doesn't show anything you said it did, and you have no citations for any of it.

Is that or is that not correct?

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Meanwhile, The Risen Lords announcement rally was as full of lies and nonsense as any of his supporters posts.

Fortune, noted bastion of socialist libtard fascism, goes through the list.

President Donald Trump boasted with abandon in launching his 2020 re-election campaign, overreached in excoriating his critics and promised progress on his border wall and health care that is improbable at best.
In those respects, his latest campaign rally was much like any other by the president.
Here’s a look at his rhetoric from Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday night:

http://fortune.com/2019/06/18/trump-spee...act-check/