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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 11:51 am
(August 6, 2019 at 11:39 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: You’ve been told, repeatedly, the the statement “there’s more to the evolution of vision than eyes” is only true with respect to species that possess “more” than eyes.
Further, you’ve been told that there are evolutionary explanations for the evolution of vision in creatures with eyes and “more”.
Either explanation (and there are many in each set, what with the diversity of life and all....) is accurate with respect to what it attempts to explain. Neither is made less accurate on account of there being other sets of also-facts about other things.
As long as you agree that the statement is true, then there's no controversy. Hopefully you can see, however, that telling is not the same as explaining, substantiating, showing, illustrating, etc. You do a lot of telling, and very little of anything else. That doesn't meet my criteria of usefulness, but to each their own.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 11:55 am
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2019 at 11:57 am by The Grand Nudger.)
You have the internet. Google it. I was never responsible for your education, but if you read back you’ll see that my willingness to educate you dropped off as your refusal to be educated become more and more apparent.
As this new diversion makes clear.
Moving along, the thing you call an eye has been around, in one form or another, since the first photoreceptive cell.
We clear on that? The ubiquity of the structure.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 11:58 am
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2019 at 11:59 am by John 6IX Breezy.)
(August 6, 2019 at 11:55 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: You have the internet. Google it. I was never responsible for your education, but if you read back you’ll see that my willingness to educate you dropped off as your refusal to be educated become more and more apparent.
As this new diversion makes clear.
Me: Hey, send me the link to the paper you read so I can read it and learn!
You: Your refusal to be educated is becoming more an more apparent.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:00 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 11:58 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 11:55 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: You have the internet. Google it. I was never responsible for your education, but if you read back you’ll see that my willingness to educate you dropped off as your refusal to be educated become more and more apparent.
As this new diversion makes clear.
Me: Hey, send me the link to the paper you read so I can read it and learn!
You: Your refusal to be educated is becoming more an more apparent.
What are you wanting to learn exactly?
There does seem to be quite a few gaps in your knowledge so please narrow it down.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:01 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2019 at 12:03 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(August 6, 2019 at 11:58 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 11:55 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: You have the internet. Google it. I was never responsible for your education, but if you read back you’ll see that my willingness to educate you dropped off as your refusal to be educated become more and more apparent.
As this new diversion makes clear.
Me: Hey, send me the link to the paper you read so I can read it and learn!
You: Your refusal to be educated is becoming more an more apparent.
Have you ever considered taking a college level course on this subject? That seems to be the most reasonable step for anyone genuinely interested in a more in-depth investigation of a particular scientific topic.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:04 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2019 at 12:05 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
(August 6, 2019 at 12:00 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 11:58 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Me: Hey, send me the link to the paper you read so I can read it and learn!
You: Your refusal to be educated is becoming more an more apparent.
What are you wanting to learn exactly?
There does seem to be quite a few gaps in your knowledge so please narrow it down.
The gentlemen presented a model as an answer to something I said earlier. So I asked if he could provide me with any papers on it. That was basically it.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:05 pm
I wonder how much we can fluff the page count by bitching about how much we don’t know, and how others won’t mollycoddle us at every step of the way?
Few hundred?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:08 pm
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(August 6, 2019 at 12:01 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 11:58 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Me: Hey, send me the link to the paper you read so I can read it and learn!
You: Your refusal to be educated is becoming more an more apparent.
Have you ever considered taking a college level course on this subject? That seems to be the most reasonable step for anyone genuinely interested in a more in-depth investigation of a particular scientific topic.
It doesn't seem reasonable from a financial stand point, but perhaps I can get the syllabus from my university and just read their textbook or assaigned papers. What course teaches model based control so I can look it up?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:08 pm
OTOH, this could have been so much simpler, an actual conversation, even.
“There is no evolutionary explanation for x!”
- There is, actually, here’s one of them.
“Cool, I didn’t know that, I stand corrected”
It’s not as if you have to agree with what anyone offers you, numbskull...but if you want to discuss something, it’s generally good form to agree on the common facts of that discussions fucking existence, lol.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:10 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 12:01 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Have you ever considered taking a college level course on this subject? That seems to be the most reasonable step for anyone genuinely interested in a more in-depth investigation of a particular scientific topic.
That is just too reasonable, so I suspect that has never been considered : )
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