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Should poor people have kids?
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 (November 29, 2019 at 6:15 am)Apathyst Wrote: How can we reduce the unequal distribution of resources?By moving to North Korea. Prosperity and equality are mutually exclusive. Quote:whether 1% of our population should be allowed to hoard 99% of the wealth?Rich don't hoard wealth, they manage it. If every liberal had billion dollars they all would go broke in 10 years.  RE: Should poor people have kids?
November 29, 2019 at 6:39 am
(This post was last modified: November 29, 2019 at 6:44 am by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(November 29, 2019 at 5:03 am)Little lunch Wrote:Sorry that’s a poor excuse, there are thousands of brands of condoms, you can’t find ONE that you’re comfortable with?(November 28, 2019 at 7:12 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: I’m referring to people who know damn well what birth control is and have access. They just make every excuse not to use it. For the price of that beer, or bag of chips you could’ve bought condoms. 7$ a box Mods! Somehow I triple posted on a reply! Help! Moderator Notice
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November 29, 2019 at 6:50 am
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Quote: For the fortunate to consider regulating to less fortunate then they disassociate from society and are much more costly to deal with as a criminal underclass. The fortunate have always regulated to the less fortunate - that's how these things work. For instance, strong-arm robbery is almost exclusively the province of poor people (rich people steal as well, they just have less direct ways of doing it), yet we make no fuss about declaring strong-arm robbery to be a bad thing. Boru
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 (November 29, 2019 at 7:39 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:(November 29, 2019 at 6:56 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: USSR was equal and it collapsed. So equal societies never existed? Are you trying to impose untested economic system on 2nd most important country in the world potentally destroying world economy that depends on US?  RE: Should poor people have kids?
November 29, 2019 at 7:48 am
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(November 29, 2019 at 6:36 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:It s hard to believe that you are under the poverty line given that you have the time to debate such things with us and you can afford to. Not to say that you spoke about spending 7 bucks on a condom pack like it was an expense that you could easily afford if you cut down on other disposable expenses.(November 29, 2019 at 6:15 am)Apathyst Wrote: Being new here and trying my damnedest not to be the snarky noob but the question presented seems no different than asking if fat people should be allowed to eat or should clumsy people be allowed to ski basically should everyone be required to prove the financial ability to not burden society in order to engage in any activity. The question is not or should not be should the poor be allowed to have kids but rather by what right can we prohibit them. The entire point of joining together into societies is that we all benefit. For the fortunate to consider regulating to less fortunate then they disassociate from society and are much more costly to deal with as a criminal underclass. Wouldn’t it be better to ask what are we doing wrong as a society that poor exist? How have we failed? How can we reduce the unequal distribution of resources? Rather than should we let the poor have kids. I’m curious if the answer turns out to be in the negative what will a society that criminalizes poor people who have babies look like? Would you want to live in it if you were behind a rawlsian veil and couldn’t know what your status would be in that society? But that’s just me. I’ll sit back and take my lumps now I guess...I’m in no way advocating for any sort or eugenic solution. Providing for child once it here should be a given. That’s not my point. I being below the poverty line myself am simply baffled at people who get pregnant and think it’s a fun or good thing when they can barely feed themselves. I simply think it’s selfish and illogical. And for those going about human sex drives there’s vibrators and flesh lights and fingers. I don’t know maybe I simply have more self control? But seriously the thought of being poor while pregnant is horrifying to me. And I truthfully think that if you didn’t want get pregnant you’d take lots of precautions. Personally not only did I when I had my first lover at 22, switch from the pill to an implant, but we both stocked up on condoms, spermicide, and mugwort tea. I’m determined to finish school and went to every precaution to prevent any accidents. And if we ran short for affording anything we put physical distance between the two of us, because there’s also phone sex and FaceTime. The kind of poor that you are speaking would need subsidized birth control. (November 29, 2019 at 6:37 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:If everybody had billions of dollars then they will be the same as they are now, because the billions will lose all the value they have now.(November 29, 2019 at 6:15 am)Apathyst Wrote: How can we reduce the unequal distribution of resources?By moving to North Korea. Prosperity and equality are mutually exclusive. Maybe you wanted to say that if we would all produce soo much that it will look like we have billions of dollars, in which case you couldn't lose them. As a matter of fact, in that situation we wouldn't be speaking about money anymore. (November 29, 2019 at 7:45 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(November 29, 2019 at 7:39 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: USSR was never equal. My Rule of So says that when a reply begins with "SO" the statement should be checked for a strawman argument.
Children are one of the few joys in life that poor people can afford.
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