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#61
RE: You can't say that anymore.
January 1, 2020 at 1:06 pm
Its funny that only two dying in gun violence is somehow a good news story.



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RE: You can't say that anymore.
January 1, 2020 at 1:09 pm
(January 1, 2020 at 1:06 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Its funny that only two dying in gun violence is somehow a good news story.

Not only "good news", it's another excuse to attempt to be sanctimonious.
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RE: You can't say that anymore.
January 1, 2020 at 1:20 pm
(January 1, 2020 at 10:14 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Well, gee, seven out of hundreds. That's conclusive.

Nice dodge.

You failed to cite the multitude of examples where mass shooters attacked where armed guards were known to be present.

Why is that?
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RE: You can't say that anymore.
January 1, 2020 at 1:34 pm
(January 1, 2020 at 1:20 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(January 1, 2020 at 10:14 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Well, gee, seven out of hundreds. That's conclusive.

Nice dodge.

You failed to cite the multitude of examples where mass shooters attacked where armed guards were known to be present.

Why is that?

How's this?  There was armed law enforcement there.  Does this count?  Cops sure did a bang up job stopping that shooter, didn't they?

Also, the previous point still counts: due to the nature of police, they can't really stop these kinds of shootings until AFTER they start.  Police don't exactly have the best track record when it comes to pre emptive action against people they think have guns.  I mean, just do a youtube search for black men open carrying and you'll get some alarming results; turns out, if your skin is darker than mind, just thinking about a gun seems to be enough for a whole squad of cops to roll up on you, point guns at you, push you to the ground and put you in hand cuffs; second amendment be damned!
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RE: You can't say that anymore.
January 1, 2020 at 1:34 pm
Because facts don't matter to you, so why bother?
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RE: You can't say that anymore.
January 1, 2020 at 1:36 pm (This post was last modified: January 1, 2020 at 1:39 pm by onlinebiker.)
(January 1, 2020 at 1:34 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Because facts don't matter to you, so why bother?

And you have so few..
(January 1, 2020 at 1:34 pm)TaraJo Wrote:
(January 1, 2020 at 1:20 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Nice dodge.

You failed to cite the multitude of examples where mass shooters attacked where armed guards were known to be present.

Why is that?

How's this?  There was armed law enforcement there.  Does this count?  Cops sure did a bang up job stopping that shooter, didn't they?

Also, the previous point still counts: due to the nature of police, they can't really stop these kinds of shootings until AFTER they start.  Police don't exactly have the best track record when it comes to pre emptive action against people they think have guns.  I mean, just do a youtube search for black men open carrying and you'll get some alarming results; turns out, if your skin is darker than mind, just thinking about a gun seems to be enough for a whole squad of cops to roll up on you, point guns at you, push you to the ground and put you in hand cuffs; second amendment be damned!

You realize that your cited example is a good reason for people to consider protecting themselves - rather than counting on the cops?
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RE: You can't say that anymore.
January 1, 2020 at 1:47 pm (This post was last modified: January 1, 2020 at 1:52 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Every school has an SRO, and yet they keep getting shot up. The good guy with a gun is an american cultural hero, not an effective deterrent.

In mere reality, the guy with a gun stopping anything is rare, but hey..it happens. Not as often as he shoots someone else, or gets shot with his own gun....or killed by an attacker. Still, it's something to aspire to.
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January 1, 2020 at 1:53 pm
(January 1, 2020 at 1:47 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Every school has an SRO, and yet they keep getting shot up.  The good guy with a gun is an american cultural hero, not an effective deterrent.

In mere reality, the guy with a gun stopping anything is rare, but hey..it happens.  Not as often as he shoots someone else, or gets shot with his own gun....or killed by an attacker.   Still, it's something to aspire to.
A hero for a subset of the Americans.
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RE: You can't say that anymore.
January 1, 2020 at 2:03 pm (This post was last modified: January 1, 2020 at 2:05 pm by onlinebiker.)
(January 1, 2020 at 1:47 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Every school has an SRO, and yet they keep getting shot up.  The good guy with a gun is an american cultural hero, not an effective deterrent.

In mere reality, the guy with a gun stopping anything is rare, but hey..it happens.  Not as often as he shoots someone else, or gets shot with his own gun....or killed by an attacker.   Still, it's something to aspire to.

Show evidence of SRO's unprovoked shootings or having their weapons getting taken away and used against them.....

Sure that SOUNDS great - but examples of it seem lacking.....

Or is this one of those "I just KNOW it" kind of things?
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RE: You can't say that anymore.
January 1, 2020 at 2:21 pm (This post was last modified: January 1, 2020 at 2:21 pm by Rev. Rye.)
(January 1, 2020 at 1:36 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
Quote:Also, the previous point still counts: due to the nature of police, they can't really stop these kinds of shootings until AFTER they start.  Police don't exactly have the best track record when it comes to pre emptive action against people they think have guns.  I mean, just do a youtube search for black men open carrying and you'll get some alarming results; turns out, if your skin is darker than mind, just thinking about a gun seems to be enough for a whole squad of cops to roll up on you, point guns at you, push you to the ground and put you in hand cuffs; second amendment be damned!

You realize that your cited example is a good reason for people to consider protecting themselves - rather than counting on the cops?

Defending yourself... with BB guns... against the one group of people you cannot legally claim self-defense against...


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