OMG - the thread that just keeps on giving.

Sexy time with the holy family - gads.

The question isn’t whether they had sex.  There is no need to give any weight to any of bullshit with which Christianity sought through the ages to browbeat the feeble minded, or worse, lie, drich.   If there was a progeny before the 20th century, there was sex.     So there can be no question that if there was any individual or individuals behind the character Jesus, sexual reproduction was to blame for each one of those.    

The question that might be of interest would is sex be-tween whom produced that individual, or individuals. 

It could be part of the jesus tale to traceable to sex between Joseph and Mary.  But perhaps between Mary and someone else.  Or between two completely different individuals and only ascribed to Mary through some deceit for reasons now lost to time.

Mary and Joe were erm gallivanting, as it were.

Mary gets up the duff because as a peasant she is not good at counting.

Mary and Joe knows she will be executed for the sin of...something. It is not adultery since neither were married. Being sexed up youngsters, I suppose.

Mary and Joe concoct a story to cover up for the unexpected pregnancy by making up a "holy rapist", thus saving Mary from the inevitable stoning.

And they all lived happily ever after.

(March 18, 2020 at 1:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(March 18, 2020 at 1:33 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Yes, considering what would come to her by being pregnant without a husband in those times. She came to Fatima to make the sun wobble, but Joe is forgotten. Mabe he wanted fine pussy, mabe he was a righteous man, but the righteous man on earth™ job was already given to Job, that offered his daughters to a mob of rapists then ended up fucking them.

I have an headache now, from the hysterical laughter.

That was Lot, not Job. Next thing, you’ll be telling us about Goldilocks and the seven dwarfs.

Please try to keep your fictional characters straight.  

Boru

Oh yeah, my bad. OFC Obi-Wan Kenobi told gandalf to "engage"

(March 18, 2020 at 2:51 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(March 18, 2020 at 1:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That was Lot, not Job. Next thing, you’ll be telling us about Goldilocks and the seven dwarfs.

Please try to keep your fictional characters straight.  

Boru

Oh yeah, my bad. OFC Obi-Wan Kenobi told gandalf to "engage"

Really? It was testosterone told me to engage.

(March 18, 2020 at 1:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(March 18, 2020 at 1:33 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Yes, considering what would come to her by being pregnant without a husband in those times. She came to Fatima to make the sun wobble, but Joe is forgotten. Mabe he wanted fine pussy, mabe he was a righteous man, but the righteous man on earth™ job was already given to Job, that offered his daughters to a mob of rapists then ended up fucking them.

I have an headache now, from the hysterical laughter.

That was Lot, not Job. Next thing, you’ll be telling us about Goldilocks and the seven dwarfs.

Please try to keep your fictional characters straight.  

Boru

Goldilocks was accosted by a big bad wolf, while delivering food to Hansel and Gretle.

Oh well, this is an unsolvable conundrum for Christians. Catholics desperately want to believe Mary and Joseph never had sex, while protestants don't care.

The most honest article I could find is a protestant article that is taking into account what Catholics and some of the prominent Christians want to believe versus Mt. 1:25

Surprisingly, article calls out Catholic game of playing the usual "the world in the Bible has many meanings/ it is wrongly translated" as deceptive, just as their quick practice of changing the subject from Mt. 1:25 to some other verses.

But the conclusion from the article is:

Quote:Both Martin Luther and John Calvin affirmed the perpetual virginity of Mary.  Whether or not they and the Roman Catholic Church are correct will ultimately be decided when we encounter the Lord, and he reveals the truth to us in heaven.

https://carm.org/catholic/marys-virginity-and-matt-125

So you heard it: it's one of those mysteries that Christians will learn the answer to when they are dead. Along with all the secrets from "Lost" and "Battlestar Galactica".

(March 18, 2020 at 5:13 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Oh well, this is an unsolvable conundrum for Christians. Catholics desperately want to believe Mary and Joseph never had sex, while protestants don't care.

The most honest article I could find is a protestant article that is taking into account what Catholics and some of the prominent Christians want to believe versus Mt. 1:25

Surprisingly, article calls out Catholic game of playing the usual "the world in the Bible has many meanings/ it is wrongly translated" as deceptive, just as their quick practice of changing the subject from Mt. 1:25 to some other verses.

But the conclusion from the article is:

Quote:Both Martin Luther and John Calvin affirmed the perpetual virginity of Mary.  Whether or not they and the Roman Catholic Church are correct will ultimately be decided when we encounter the Lord, and he reveals the truth to us in heaven.

https://carm.org/catholic/marys-virginity-and-matt-125

So you heard it: it's one of those mysteries that Christians will learn the answer to when they are dead. Along with all the secrets from "Lost" and "Battlestar Galactica".

Catholics view this as being at the highest level of ‘revealed truth’. Translation: some monk who was highly stressed due to overwork, poor diet, and no sex thought it up in a fever dream.

Boru

(March 18, 2020 at 5:13 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Oh well, this is an unsolvable conundrum for Christians. Catholics desperately want to believe Mary and Joseph never had sex, while protestants don't care.

The most honest article I could find is a protestant article that is taking into account what Catholics and some of the prominent Christians want to believe versus Mt. 1:25

Surprisingly, article calls out Catholic game of playing the usual "the world in the Bible has many meanings/ it is wrongly translated" as deceptive, just as their quick practice of changing the subject from Mt. 1:25 to some other verses.

But the conclusion from the article is:

Quote:Both Martin Luther and John Calvin affirmed the perpetual virginity of Mary.  Whether or not they and the Roman Catholic Church are correct will ultimately be decided when we encounter the Lord, and he reveals the truth to us in heaven.

https://carm.org/catholic/marys-virginity-and-matt-125

So you heard it: it's one of those mysteries that Christians will learn the answer to when they are dead. Along with all the secrets from "Lost" and "Battlestar Galactica".

I wish I could have the hours back that I wasted on LOST.  Those fuckers and that heaven's waiting room ending...grrrrrrr….damn I was mad.  

(March 18, 2020 at 5:33 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(March 18, 2020 at 5:13 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Oh well, this is an unsolvable conundrum for Christians. Catholics desperately want to believe Mary and Joseph never had sex, while protestants don't care.

The most honest article I could find is a protestant article that is taking into account what Catholics and some of the prominent Christians want to believe versus Mt. 1:25

Surprisingly, article calls out Catholic game of playing the usual "the world in the Bible has many meanings/ it is wrongly translated" as deceptive, just as their quick practice of changing the subject from Mt. 1:25 to some other verses.

But the conclusion from the article is:


So you heard it: it's one of those mysteries that Christians will learn the answer to when they are dead. Along with all the secrets from "Lost" and "Battlestar Galactica".

Catholics view this as being at the highest level of ‘revealed truth’. Translation: some monk who was highly stressed due to overwork, poor diet, and no sex thought it up in a fever dream.

Boru

Oh the whole lot fell apart for me with Santa. Once one discovered one beardy magic sky fairy was no real, one started to question the other sky fairies. But that was decades ago.

In fairness, and honesty, i had a school friend. He was, I suppose, the soft type, son of a widow, a mom's boy. He became the viictim du jour. Eventually he suicided. It is a matter of great regret to me that as kids we did not intervene in what we could plainly see happening. We all knew that he was being abused by the cross dressing rapists. But we were kids. Rather him than any of the rest of us.

Poor fucker.

And that is how it went in those days. Everyone knew not just how to spot the victim, but how to avoid becoming the victim. And if one did not learn that lesson, then you were wastage. Better you than me. 

It grieves me now, in later life, that I did not step up for what I knew to be right when I was a child. But I was a child. The blanket of authority and fear conquered all.