(May 21, 2020 at 5:17 pm)chimp3 Wrote:

(May 21, 2020 at 5:02 pm)Drich Wrote:

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guess you stopped reading 1/2 through to ask why does God need a star ship..

answered that in the second 1/2:

The bible describes us as a spiritual being being separate from this physical form. so rather than being a digital consciousness in a simulated body/brain in a vat or a conscious sub routine, we are a spiritual being or consciousness being transmitted into a fleshed out form like avatar? again this is on a base line what the bible describes our relationship with out body is. we are a mind/body soul and spirit. the mind and body being the big blue cat people and all the physical stuff needed to run the body, and soul is our tangible spiritual form and our spirit is that forms will or essence.

What if we are in a sim like the bible describes to see where our allegiance lies?

I often thing what if we are the fallen angels that satan tricked as they were all cast to earth. and some of us were simply caught up in following our orders/think we were serving God when in fact we were rebelling, and rather than God throw us all away he put us into this sim to prove to ourselves who we really are. are we one of God's people of one of satans.

if you want a real discussion i daniel am open to one if you want to be mean and nasty drich can help you with that.

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No, I read in it's entirety and did not mention a starship. My argument stands except perhaps your god would be silly enough to program The Oakridge Boys and generic q-tips. So would you Drich. Your just as banal and boring as your god. Perhaps you are busy programming your god into the vat called your brain?

no need to mention the star ship when all of life basically takes place on the holodeck.

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(May 22, 2020 at 12:24 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: You're presenting an idea not a theory. Small quibble.

im presenting what elon musk had to say on the subject.

LOL. What a crock of shit.

You aren't presenting what Elon Musk has to say on the subject. You're presenting your own poorly constructed beliefs and deflecting to someone you think is a better man.

(May 22, 2020 at 2:38 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(May 22, 2020 at 10:30 am)Drich Wrote: To me this says dualism has nothing to do with fleshed out sim theory.

Correct...drich, dualism has nothing to do with fleshed out sim theory... 

As expected, you never considered the ramifications of sim theory to your beliefs, and you may not even be capable of following a simple conversation. 

Quote:Again all i did was take sim theory and say rather than be digital we are spiritual, but what is spiritual it could be a series of electrical impulses which makes us digital.. Just showing how the bible work can also work in this theory.

dualism is the creation of reality by two opposing forces.

Magic book only "works" in one theory - exactly the way magic book describes it.  If you had the faith of a mustard seed this wouldn't be a problem for you.   Magic book says things are like x.  It doesn't say that things are kinda like this other x if you hold them at a 45 degree angle and squint just right.  You're as bad as the muslim nutters with their quranic miracle bullshit.

If this life is a game of sims, or the movie avatar, your entire religion is false.  Factually and theologically false.  Are you committed to the truth of your own religion?

you dont seem to understand what the bible has to say on the subject. Paul divides our being into 3 entities Body, mind, soul, spirit. body being our physical form the mind being the cognitive center for the body it seems to regulate body function and is what is bound to sin. Soul is our Spiritual being spirit being the mind of the soul. I went into greater detail when we discussed the possibility of our brains not being the origins of our consciousness but a simple transmitter and receiver.

Then we are told over and over this world is not our home that we are not these carnal creatures but spiritual being in nature. again if a theory need be changed we make one small adjustment to the sci fi side and rather being in the matrix we are in avatar.

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(May 24, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Maybe indeed I am in a game and I forgot to turn it off and all the other "people" are just characters in a game.

I mean it makes sense because how can there really be people who believe that a man rode a flying horse to heaven to negotiate how many times a day people should pray? Or people who believe that there wouldn't be morality in the world if they didn't believe that carpenter walked on water 2k years ago?

This just can't be real. I better find the turn-off switch.

you do understand the anaology elon musk used right?

maybe neil degrasse tyson can break it down he is much better at speaking/teaching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtFG74gvcg4

The likelihood of this reality being the first is one in trillions.

I ask what if the programmer's name was God, and he wants us to follow what is sim'ed out in the bible?

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(May 25, 2020 at 12:38 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: So if we take this as true then the correlation is that someone programmed Drich to be as faulty and defective as possible.

if you are assuming this is true... then that means logically i am the one who is right. If i'm right how can i be the faulty one?

(May 26, 2020 at 11:41 am)Drich Wrote:

(May 22, 2020 at 2:38 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Correct...drich, dualism has nothing to do with fleshed out sim theory... 

As expected, you never considered the ramifications of sim theory to your beliefs, and you may not even be capable of following a simple conversation. 

Magic book only "works" in one theory - exactly the way magic book describes it.  If you had the faith of a mustard seed this wouldn't be a problem for you.   Magic book says things are like x.  It doesn't say that things are kinda like this other x if you hold them at a 45 degree angle and squint just right.  You're as bad as the muslim nutters with their quranic miracle bullshit.

If this life is a game of sims, or the movie avatar, your entire religion is false.  Factually and theologically false.  Are you committed to the truth of your own religion?

you dont seem to understand what the bible has to say on the subject. Paul divides our being into 3 entities Body, mind, soul, spirit. body being our physical form the mind being the cognitive center for the body it seems to regulate body function and is what is bound to sin. Soul is our Spiritual being spirit being the mind of the soul. I went into greater detail when we discussed the possibility of our brains not being the origins of our consciousness but a simple transmitter and receiver.

Then we are told over and over this world is not our home that we are not these carnal creatures but spiritual being in nature. again if a theory need be changed we make one small adjustment to the sci fi side and rather being in the matrix we are in avatar.

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(May 24, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Maybe indeed I am in a game and I forgot to turn it off and all the other "people" are just characters in a game.

I mean it makes sense because how can there really be people who believe that a man rode a flying horse to heaven to negotiate how many times a day people should pray? Or people who believe that there wouldn't be morality in the world if they didn't believe that carpenter walked on water 2k years ago?

This just can't be real. I better find the turn-off switch.

you do understand the anaology elon musk used right?

maybe neil degrasse tyson can break it down he is much better at speaking/teaching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtFG74gvcg4

The likelihood of this reality being the first is one in trillions.

I ask what if the programmer's name was God, and he wants us to follow what is sim'ed out in the bible?

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(May 25, 2020 at 12:38 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: So if we take this as true then the correlation is that someone programmed Drich to be as faulty and defective as possible.

if you are assuming this is true... then that means logically i am the one who is right. If i'm right how can i be the faulty one?

Fortunately for us these are hypothetical musings as reality has bore out that you are woefully wrong all the time.

RAmen

(May 26, 2020 at 11:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: LOL.  What a crock of shit.  

You aren't presenting what Elon Musk has to say on the subject.  You're presenting your own poorly constructed beliefs and deflecting to someone you think is a better man.

I've taken two of this theories. one nuralink and the ability to upload your consciousness into a super computer and then download it into any body and sim theory which allows for an avatar type of sim.

I'm not wrong here just a little ahead of you

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(May 26, 2020 at 11:52 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(May 26, 2020 at 11:41 am)Drich Wrote: you dont seem to understand what the bible has to say on the subject. Paul divides our being into 3 entities Body, mind, soul, spirit. body being our physical form the mind being the cognitive center for the body it seems to regulate body function and is what is bound to sin. Soul is our Spiritual being spirit being the mind of the soul. I went into greater detail when we discussed the possibility of our brains not being the origins of our consciousness but a simple transmitter and receiver.

Then we are told over and over this world is not our home that we are not these carnal creatures but spiritual being in nature. again if a theory need be changed we make one small adjustment to the sci fi side and rather being in the matrix we are in avatar.

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you do understand the anaology elon musk used right?

maybe neil degrasse tyson can break it down he is much better at speaking/teaching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtFG74gvcg4

The likelihood of this reality being the first is one in trillions.

I ask what if the programmer's name was God, and he wants us to follow what is sim'ed out in the bible?

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if you are assuming this is true... then that means logically i am the one who is right. If i'm right how can i be the faulty one?

Fortunately for us these are hypothetical musings as reality has bore out that you are woefully wrong all the time.

RAmen

if that were the case you'd think you could successfully argue or discuss a theological point from time to time without retreating to your intellectual 'safe place'

(May 26, 2020 at 11:56 am)Drich Wrote:

(May 26, 2020 at 11:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: LOL.  What a crock of shit.  

You aren't presenting what Elon Musk has to say on the subject.  You're presenting your own poorly constructed beliefs and deflecting to someone you think is a better man.

I've taken two of this theories. one nuralink and the ability to upload your consciousness into a super computer and then download it into any body and sim theory which allows for an avatar type of sim.

I'm not wrong here just a little ahead of you

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(May 26, 2020 at 11:52 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Fortunately for us these are hypothetical musings as reality has bore out that you are woefully wrong all the time.

RAmen

if that were the case you'd think you could successfully argue or discuss a theological point from time to time without retreating to your intellectual 'safe place'

I don't argue with idiots, I'd have to stoop to your level and then you'd beat me with experience.

Not that any discussion is warranted mind you. I have the correct faith already and It's clear that bothers you greatly.

ETA: yes I know the thread is about the silly brain vat/Sim notion.

Thoughts and Prayers.
RAmen

I just saw a black cat walk past.
TWICE!!!

(May 21, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Drich Wrote: Any you b-holes ever hear of simulation theory

Cogito ergo sum. Renee Descarte

Quote:What if the gammer's tag who is playing this sims game happens to be named God?

Then you are part of a simulation that you can't and don't understand. Scripture and religion are also part of the simulation and you don't understand their roles either. For all you know the simulation exists to keep God's food fresh while he snacks on your brains.

There isn't any evidence for any of it so there's little point in discussing it.

   

Not at work.

(May 21, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Drich Wrote: Any you b-holes ever hear of simulation theory... basically it's the matrix. youre either a brain in a vat being fed electrical signals (which technically we are a brain in a vat/skull and out only way of experiencing the outside world is through these electrical signals out brains read.) or all of this is some grand computer program and you as an individual are little more than a consciousness subroutine.

This is all a fringe scientific possibility below the first video provides a test and theory, and elon kinda breaks it all down if you want how this all could work in plain English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlTKTTt47WE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBKRuI2zHp0

The scarry thing he said was if games progress long enough they will be indistinguishable from reality. even if we give it a 1000 margarine it just means for us in a 1000 years we won't be able to distinguish games from a base reality if we are not from said base reality. now scarry thing is what if this is the simulation? someone elese's game? He said for us we could have a 1 in billions chance of being in base reality... Meaning there are billions more realities and we have but one in billions chance of being that base reality.

So it is far greater  possibility we are in a simulations.

Putting down Drich persona for a moment and Daniel is talking to Steve and mark and the rest..

This IS What The Bible Describes. stay with me hear me out.

What if the gammer's tag who is playing this sims game happens to be named God?

The bible describes us as a spiritual being being separate from this physical form. so rather than being a digital consciousness in a simulated body/brain in a vat or a conscious sub routine, we are a spiritual being or consciousness being transmitted into a fleshed out form like avatar? again this is on a base line what the bible describes our relationship with out body is. we are a mind/body soul and spirit. the mind and body being the big blue cat people and all the physical stuff needed to run the body, and soul is our tangible spiritual form and our spirit is that forms will or essence.

What if we are in a sim like the bible describes to see where our allegiance lies?

I often thing what if we are the fallen angels that satan tricked as they were all cast to earth. and some of us were simply caught up in following our orders/think we were serving God when in fact we were rebelling, and rather than God throw us all away he put us into this sim to prove to ourselves who we really are. are we one of God's people of one of satans.

if you want a real discussion i daniel am open to one if you want to be mean and nasty drich can help you with that.

Thank you for that.
I also believe that life is a mere dream that God wanted us to live through to see where our allegiance resides: with him or with Satan.