Show us your dick John.

(June 9, 2020 at 10:26 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: All these are from God.

It seems to me that it's from god to you. None of us are receiving any special mental mail from your god.

Know who else receives special messages that others don't? Crazy people.

My favorite part of this thread is when he refers back to a post in this thread that people have already read as proof when asked to provide proof. That is some masterful trolling! I'm taking notes!

1. Say a thing
2. when they ask for evidence to prove a thing refer back to the thing you said earlier
3. profit!

(June 9, 2020 at 10:26 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: The "evidence" are all over this post.   So you are actually choosing to miss them.  @Abaddon_ire can help you with these.  Where it is about a town being saved from their evil disciplining of their children.  

And then there is your actual saving from intellectualism also.

And then of course your saving from slavery too.

The actual "Savior" is God.  Just using humans.  Because humans are not really able to operate on this scale.  

All these are from God.  As you can never give the honor to a man for doing that.

So... you just link back into this thread.... ?

Anything posted within this thread would be a 'Claim'.

So... a 'Claim' is not the actual evidence.

Do you have something other than this thread, something that is real and existant out within reality?

Cheers.

Not at work.

(June 9, 2020 at 9:48 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: It took me only 5 minutes to become one.

Irrelevant.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: They have the obligation to become. 

Another lie. They are under no obligation to chase you from forum to forum.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: If they are who they say they are they will do it. 

Nope. Why should they? Because an idiotic lunatic like you  is in no position of power over anyone, not even yourself.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: If they don't they are immoral people.

What does your god have to say about judging others?

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Because they can not "conceal" such an evil person as me.

I agree, you are an evil person. You are unable to hide it from yourself.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Which it seems they are presently doing.  Sending you alone in to face me. 

What a deranged claim. Nobody sent me here. I have been posting here for three fucking years before you showed up. You are such a towering moron that you forgot that EVERYONES join date is written on EVERY page they post on. Thus, if you could fucking read, you would see that I joined here on October 4, 2017 and have been posting away since.

You joined on May 21, 2020. In other words you followed me and are once again exposed as the sad lying bastard that you are.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: While they are hiding away.  For my "cudgel".

knopkierie. And you hung around street corners threatening people with it. Or had you forgotten?

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: ==========================
obligation
<snip pointless dictionary definition>

So what? If you were to enter my home, take a dump on my carpet and I then threw you out, would I then be obliged to follow you to the next random house you entered and shit on? I don't fucking think so, you idiot.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

Quote:Those are not friends of mine. Because of your insanity, I had cause to communicate with them to determine the truth of the matter. That is all.

Good.  They appreciated the opportunity you presented.  Tell them about the greater opportunity Atheistic Forums are giving them now.  All of you.  Together fighting evil. 

Yet another lie. None of them liked the fact that I contacted them. It re-opened wounds not yet healed. The wounds YOU inflicted intentionally.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: It is your obligation. 

All of you.

No, it really isn't.

(June 9, 2020 at 6:55 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 7, 2020 at 9:37 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: I have no interest in the babblings of ignorant, superstitious scribes writing over 2,000 years ago.

Of course, it’s easy for us with our 21st Century, materialistic minds to dismiss the Bible as a load of rubbish. But in the actual analysis, that is exactly what the Bible turns out to be---a load of rubbish! It is a book of nonsensical, fantastic stories about talking animals, talking bushes, mythical creatures, people rising from the dead, magic and pseudo-history. It is the creation of ignorant, fallible men, reflecting the prejudices, superstitions, bad theology and fears of the times in which it was written. It promotes slavery, ethnic cleansing, race prejudice, wars of conquest, the subjugation of women, child abuse and genital mutilation. It promotes the worship and celebration of a god who is little more than an egotistical, homicidal, fear-mongering tyrant. It is a book which any reasonable, intellectually honest, and intelligent person should heartily dismiss as bad fiction.

It is not just about the Bible anymore.  It is now about Us too.  The Children of God in the various Churches and Me.  Speaking with you right here and now.  Being in a Relationship with you.  Because of who I am.  As result of the Creation of God as our Father.

Now you are running away just like my other Son, @Abaddon_ire from the real issue here that is actually Me.

Um...I have no interest in your insane babblings either. You're delusional and can't be reasoned with.

“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” (Thomas Paine)

(June 9, 2020 at 8:22 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(June 9, 2020 at 6:55 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: It is not just about the Bible anymore.  It is now about Us too.  The Children of God in the various Churches and Me.  Speaking with you right here and now.  Being in a Relationship with you.  Because of who I am.  As result of the Creation of God as our Father.

Now you are running away just like my other Son, @Abaddon_ire from the real issue here that is actually Me.

Um...I have no interest in your insane babblings either. You're delusional and can't be reasoned with.

“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” (Thomas Paine)

Easy for you to say, you have never been stalked by the fucker.

Oh yes, he has a perverse hard on for me and those few others who tracked down his nonsense. He never thought that if he provided full contact details for his victims some of us would take the trouble to seek those out and get to the truth of the matter.

And it winds him up because somewhere deep inside, he knows what a cunt he is.

Want to know where I stopped, where I drew the line? I still have the name address and email and cell phone for his ex wife. Because HE GAVE ME THEM. There was a time a few years ago, back in his heyday that I almost did it. I almost reached out to her, but then I thought, this woman and her children have suffered enough at the hand of Johan. What right have I to make that worse by bringing it all back?

And  the answer is that I have no right to do so. I really, really wanted to get her and her childrens side of it, but I just couldn't. It wouldn't be right to inflict more of this abject nonsense on them, the immediate victims of this lunacy. So I didn't. By now, of course, she has likely moved house and changed phone number. Can't blame her, I know I would have.

As for those I did contact, I was very careful and gentle in my approach, being aware that this was a very sensitive issue for this township. And they in return were rather polite. But also very firm. They want nothing further to do with the raging loon.  

So here we stand. I rocked up here three odd years ago posting away about many topics and we are all happy out. the loon rocks up virtually yesterday and claims I followed him here. 

I have a lot of technical gear for sure, but last I checked, a Tardis was not on my inventory.

On top of that he claims I was "sent" by "them" to pursue him. There is only one valid response to that...

(June 9, 2020 at 6:55 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 7, 2020 at 9:37 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: I have no interest in the babblings of ignorant, superstitious scribes writing over 2,000 years ago.

Of course, it’s easy for us with our 21st Century, materialistic minds to dismiss the Bible as a load of rubbish. But in the actual analysis, that is exactly what the Bible turns out to be---a load of rubbish! It is a book of nonsensical, fantastic stories about talking animals, talking bushes, mythical creatures, people rising from the dead, magic and pseudo-history. It is the creation of ignorant, fallible men, reflecting the prejudices, superstitions, bad theology and fears of the times in which it was written. It promotes slavery, ethnic cleansing, race prejudice, wars of conquest, the subjugation of women, child abuse and genital mutilation. It promotes the worship and celebration of a god who is little more than an egotistical, homicidal, fear-mongering tyrant. It is a book which any reasonable, intellectually honest, and intelligent person should heartily dismiss as bad fiction.

It is not just about the Bible anymore.  It is now about Us too.  The Children of God in the various Churches and Me.  Speaking with you right here and now.  Being in a Relationship with you.  Because of who I am.  As result of the Creation of God as our Father.

Now you are running away just like my other Son, @Abaddon_ire from the real issue here that is actually Me.

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(June 7, 2020 at 1:18 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: *yawn*

Seems you are not really interested in who i am. 

And I am not interested in your intellectual worshiping of yourself and your mind. 

Relationships is what God has saved us for.  You will realize that I can not be converted to cold intellectualism in the worshiping of myself and my "good" mind while I am actually a Mother.  Enjoying my Family Life.  I can not give up Life to be dead with Adam and Eve again.  

As neither your Father nor me, your Mother, want to force you to accept your New Life of Jesus you can go and sleep now. Seems you are tired.  We will not disappear.  We will always be waiting on you to accept us in your Life.  Whenever you are ready.  For now you can enjoy "dragon" life.  That is actually a huge "pain".  But it is your choice.  Babies usually don't know what is good for them.  The more they grow up the more they make better choices.

I’m not interested in anything you cannot demonstrate exists.

(June 9, 2020 at 6:55 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 7, 2020 at 9:37 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: I have no interest in the babblings of ignorant, superstitious scribes writing over 2,000 years ago.

Of course, it’s easy for us with our 21st Century, materialistic minds to dismiss the Bible as a load of rubbish. But in the actual analysis, that is exactly what the Bible turns out to be---a load of rubbish! It is a book of nonsensical, fantastic stories about talking animals, talking bushes, mythical creatures, people rising from the dead, magic and pseudo-history. It is the creation of ignorant, fallible men, reflecting the prejudices, superstitions, bad theology and fears of the times in which it was written. It promotes slavery, ethnic cleansing, race prejudice, wars of conquest, the subjugation of women, child abuse and genital mutilation. It promotes the worship and celebration of a god who is little more than an egotistical, homicidal, fear-mongering tyrant. It is a book which any reasonable, intellectually honest, and intelligent person should heartily dismiss as bad fiction.

It is not just about the Bible anymore.  It is now about Us too.  The Children of God in the various Churches and Me.  Speaking with you right here and now.  Being in a Relationship with you.  Because of who I am.  As result of the Creation of God as our Father.

Now you are running away just like my other Son, @Abaddon_ire from the real issue here that is actually Me.

For once you are indeed correct. The issue here really IS you. You are the issue. And the abject crankery you espouse. And the actions you inflict on everyone proximate to you. And your casual evil with which you afflict others around you.

See, normally, I would have a polite debate on a forum with whomever had some god claim. Normally, I would be unmoved much by whatever such a protagonist invented by way of an argument for their deity of choice.

But you? No. See most of those god botherers are misguided, but harmless. You, as I found out, are actively and willingly harmful. And that is unforgivable.

Now I can give you one or two guarantees. No I will not follow you to whichever forum you next infect with your toxic nonsense. I have no interest in wasting that kind of time. As far as I am concerned, you can go die in a fire. Because I know what you have done. And those horrible actions must IMHO always be opposed. I consider it a moral imperative to oppose that level of actual evil.

That said, if you do turn up out of the blue on any other forum where I am a member, I will not hesitate to immediately respond by wheeling out the facts of the matter wherever that venue might be.

Why? Because your brand immorality should always be opposed whenever encountered. You are not the usual theist debater, you actually do it in real life and make real people around you suffer. And you simply do not care.

You know, I would really like to see Johan go head to head with Drich. That would be awesome