(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(June 9, 2020 at 6:55 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: It is not just about the Bible anymore.  It is now about Us too.  The Children of God in the various Churches and Me.  Speaking with you right here and now.  Being in a Relationship with you.  Because of who I am.  As result of the Creation of God as our Father.

Now you are running away just like my other Son, @Abaddon_ire from the real issue here that is actually Me.

For once you are indeed correct. The issue here really IS you. You are the issue. And the abject crankery you espouse. And the actions you inflict on everyone proximate to you. And your casual evil with which you afflict others around you.

See, normally, I would have a polite debate on a forum with whomever had some god claim. Normally, I would be unmoved much by whatever such a protagonist invented by way of an argument for their deity of choice.

But you? No.  See most of those god botherers are misguided, but harmless. You, as I found out, are actively and willingly harmful. And that is unforgivable.

Now  I can give you one or two guarantees. No I will not follow you to whichever forum you next infect with your toxic nonsense. I have no interest in wasting that kind of time.  As far as I am concerned, you can go die in a fire. Because I know what you have done. And those horrible actions must IMHO always be opposed. I consider it a moral imperative to oppose that level of actual evil.

That said, if you do turn up out of the blue on any other forum where I am a member, I will not hesitate to immediately respond by wheeling out the facts of the matter wherever that venue might be.

Why? Because your brand immorality should always be opposed whenever encountered. You are not the usual theist debater, you actually do it in real life and make real people around you suffer. And you simply do not care.

Quote:For once you are indeed correct.

You can admit I am right here.  Because admitting I am right in you having been taken for a ride is a bit too much.  But out of your response we can see that I was right there too. I was persecuted for bringing in God's Love and Wisdom in the place of fear and punishment.  

Quote:The issue here really IS you. You are the issue. And the abject crankery you espouse. And the actions you inflict on everyone proximate to you. And your casual evil with which you afflict others around you.

And all of this you tried to prove.  Without success.  All just "backbiting".  Because I was actually bringing in the Ruling of God in Love and Wisdom in the place of the fear and punishment. 

Quote:You, as I found out, are actively and willingly harmful.

Seems you are struggling to find my source of  Power that I am exerting.  Giving it to anger and a "cudgel".  And you don't see.   That it is actually the man with the anger that gets ill.  That is why I am still perfectly healthy and  those with the anger like you "sick to death".  

Quote:And that is unforgivable.

And this is the reason for you "downfall".  And being "sick to death" with those in Robertson.    Because God said "forgive".  And you refuse.  Thus your "sickness".  

Quote:And those horrible actions must IMHO always be opposed. I consider it a moral imperative to oppose that level of actual evil.

You keep on making the mistake of "acting" this "level of evil" while it is totally wrong.  This "level" of evil was from the other side.  

Quote:That said, if you do turn up out of the blue on any other forum where I am a member, I will not hesitate to immediately respond by wheeling out the facts of the matter wherever that venue might be.

Good.   I am glad you give me the opportunity to reveal what is actually going on.  Can you please give me all the forums that you are on?

Quote:Why? Because your brand immorality should always be opposed whenever encountered.

Good.  You will have your opportunity now.  

Quote:You are not the usual theist debater, you actually do it in real life

Good that you see this.   I am not into endless debating.  Trying to show off my intellect and being worshiped for how good I am.  I am into Real God Life.  

Quote: and make real people around you suffer.

Nope.  I have no means to do that.  It is their anger that makes them suffer.  Nothing more and nothing less.  When you forgive someone for his anger and evil actions as result then they start suffering. 


Rom 12
 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.

   If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
   Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
   Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
   Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Here you see the Overcoming Power of God.  And the "coals of fire" on the opposite side.  Which you struggle to fathom.  Sure Robertson are really "sick to death" as you evaluated them truthfully.  But because of these "coals of fire".  And Good always overcome evil.   When it is not "avenging" but "place is given to wrath".  Then God Himself do the "vengeance and repaying".  


Not my doing.  You give me too much credit.  And then you are looking for my Power in something (cudgel) that does not exist.  

Quote:And you simply do not care.

Wrong.  I do.  It is you that don't care.  Because you don't want to call them here to see their healing.  To stop with their anger and backbiting and using their "cudgels" on me.  Because they are actually fighting against God.  With evil.  And their downfall is evident. 

I can not call them.  They run from me.  But you are on "speaking terms".  You can call them.  To be healed.  To see God used the evil for much Good.  They have a Holy Mother now.   To Love and not to fight.   As Love will be their healing.  In the place of their anger.

---

(June 10, 2020 at 3:15 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(June 9, 2020 at 6:55 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: It is not just about the Bible anymore.  It is now about Us too.  The Children of God in the various Churches and Me.  Speaking with you right here and now.  Being in a Relationship with you.  Because of who I am.  As result of the Creation of God as our Father.

Now you are running away just like my other Son, @Abaddon_ire from the real issue here that is actually Me.

---

Seems you are not really interested in who i am. 

And I am not interested in your intellectual worshiping of yourself and your mind. 

Relationships is what God has saved us for.  You will realize that I can not be converted to cold intellectualism in the worshiping of myself and my "good" mind while I am actually a Mother.  Enjoying my Family Life.  I can not give up Life to be dead with Adam and Eve again.  

As neither your Father nor me, your Mother, want to force you to accept your New Life of Jesus you can go and sleep now. Seems you are tired.  We will not disappear.  We will always be waiting on you to accept us in your Life.  Whenever you are ready.  For now you can enjoy "dragon" life.  That is actually a huge "pain".  But it is your choice.  Babies usually don't know what is good for them.  The more they grow up the more they make better choices.

I’m not interested in anything you cannot demonstrate exists.

Good.  Then you can be our Jesus.  Because I am really existing.  As you can see @Abaddon_ire  is saying.  As your Holy Mother.  To give birth to you as our Child Jesus. 


Gal. 4

19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

And then you are saved by Me from the "dragons". 

And one day when i can link you will see your other Brothers and Sisters too.  In your Family of God.  For now you can look them up on my Facebook Page.  

And you learn to Live the Life in the Family of God in Faith.  The Faith of God that creates by His Words. 

Hebrews 11
  Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

   For by it the elders obtained a good report.
   Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

---

(June 9, 2020 at 8:22 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(June 9, 2020 at 6:55 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: It is not just about the Bible anymore.  It is now about Us too.  The Children of God in the various Churches and Me.  Speaking with you right here and now.  Being in a Relationship with you.  Because of who I am.  As result of the Creation of God as our Father.

Now you are running away just like my other Son, @Abaddon_ire from the real issue here that is actually Me.

Um...I have no interest in your insane babblings either. You're delusional and can't be reasoned with.

“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” (Thomas Paine)

Quote:Um...I have no interest in your insane babblings either. You're delusional and can't be reasoned with.

You have to use this excuse for "running away".   Because that is the only one that your intellect and your pride will accept.  No problem.  We understand. 


John 10
  ¶There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.

   And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
   Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

Quote:“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” (Thomas Paine)

Seems Thomas Paine also met with God?

At work.

So.... Johanabraham's is still just linking in circles and not actually offering anything objective?

Oh well....

John, are you XXY? And/or FADS?

(June 9, 2020 at 3:02 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(June 9, 2020 at 9:48 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: It took me only 5 minutes to become one.

Irrelevant.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: They have the obligation to become. 

Another lie. They are under no obligation to chase you from forum to forum.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: If they are who they say they are they will do it. 

Nope. Why should they? Because an idiotic lunatic like you  is in no position of power over anyone, not even yourself.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: If they don't they are immoral people.

What does your god have to say about judging others?

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Because they can not "conceal" such an evil person as me.

I agree, you are an evil person. You are unable to hide it from yourself.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Which it seems they are presently doing.  Sending you alone in to face me. 

What a deranged claim. Nobody sent me here. I have been posting here for three fucking years before you showed up. You are such a towering moron that you forgot that EVERYONES join date is written on EVERY page they post on. Thus, if you could fucking read, you would see that I joined here on October 4, 2017 and have been posting away since.

You joined on May 21, 2020. In other words you followed me and are once again exposed as the sad lying bastard that you are.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: While they are hiding away.  For my "cudgel".

knopkierie. And you hung around street corners threatening people with it. Or had you forgotten?

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: ==========================
obligation
<snip pointless dictionary definition>

So what? If you were to enter my home, take a dump on my carpet and I then threw you out, would I then be obliged to follow you to the next random house you entered and shit on? I don't fucking think so, you idiot.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Good.  They appreciated the opportunity you presented.  Tell them about the greater opportunity Atheistic Forums are giving them now.  All of you.  Together fighting evil. 

Yet another lie. None of them liked the fact that I contacted them. It re-opened wounds not yet healed. The wounds YOU inflicted intentionally.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: It is your obligation. 

All of you.

No, it really isn't.

Quote:What does your god have to say about judging others?

I am judging nobody.   It is just the Way it is.  If you don't live up to your obligation you are not morally on standard.   So we have to accept then that they are not morally there yet.  

Quote:knopkierie. And you hung around street corners threatening people with it. Or had you forgotten?

You forgotten.  It was not a "knopkierie" in my hands because the "knopkieries" were in their hands.  They were fighting physically as their "clergy" told them to do.  Trying to rule me in fear with physical pain to my body.   But unfortunately for them God Fights in Love and Wisdom.  And anger is not up to par.  And neither all their "knopkieries" they can find.  

Quote:Yet another lie. None of them liked the fact that I contacted them. It re-opened wounds not yet healed. The wounds YOU inflicted intentionally.

I agree.  Their wounds have not healed after 17 years.  And we can accept that it is still not healed.  Thus the reason for your reluctance. Why do their wounds not heal? 

And yours have not healed after 3 years.  Why not?

I haven’t seen a mess like this since someone shoved a firecracker up my Uncle Conor’s parakeet.

Boru

At work.

(June 11, 2020 at 10:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I haven’t seen a mess like this since someone shoved a firecracker up my Uncle Conor’s parakeet.

Boru

Was it a 'Norwegian Blue' by any chance?

Still waiting to see your dick John.

(June 11, 2020 at 10:48 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

(June 11, 2020 at 10:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I haven’t seen a mess like this since someone shoved a firecracker up my Uncle Conor’s parakeet.

Boru

Was it a 'Norwegian Blue' by any chance?  

The Norwegian Blue is a parrot, not a parakeet. Lovely plumage, though.

Boru

At work.

Ah yes. Lovely plumage them Norwegian Blues.

(June 9, 2020 at 10:26 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: The "evidence" are all over this post.
...
All these are from God.  As you can never give the honor to a man for doing that.

This illustrates one of Johanabrahams' most consistent traits. He conducts his discussions as if the mere act of him claiming something is proof that something is from a deity. He demonstrates the ultimate in circular reasoning. He shamelessly posts links to his own posts to provide support for his claim that his posts convey information from a deity. I have never once, in all the content of his I've encountered across multiple venues, seen him support his claims with anything other than his own word and an ejaculated splattering of Bible quotes.

Even the photograph he touted on the ISF for so long as "proof" he was God's wife was nothing but a photo of him and another man draped in a flag.  There was a Facebook comment where the person who posted the image claimed it was a photo of them and their "Mother." His say-so and a Facebook post where some random guy calls him "mother" is literally the closest I've seen him come to supporting ANY of his claims. Even that was ultimately just his word that he hadn't posted the image using a fake account and that the reference to "mother" had any significance. For all we know it could have been a photograph of two drag queens out of costume with one of them referring to the other being their mentor in how to be a drag queen.

The religious claims of Johanabrahams constitute an excellent illustration of a "Nothingburger."