Quote:Abolish the police. A narrative driven by pure ideology.

No it's not 

Quote:A vision of a peaceful Utopia without police

More nope

Quote:A narrative being embraced by all criminal alike

It was a parody dumbass

Quote:So that same fantasy utopia the blinds the left happens to be the same utopia every criminal would die for

Pure delusion 

Quote:This is textbook stuff, that is before the left burnt those textbooks

Unhinged nonesense

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Quote:It take u didn't understand mine cos that is the noise coming from the most extreme

No it's not 

Quote:Even in Australia where "institutionalized racism" doesn't exist their are people talking on the ABC (the national broadcaster) about scraping cops completely

Yes it does 

Quote:But lets see what the actual NYPD has to say, the world renowned NYPD.

The NYPD have a awful track record on brutality so they don't get to talk

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Quote:Where would New York be without these people?

Under a new system 

Quote:Where would any city and county be without these people?

Under a new system 

Quote:No one ever said black lives don't matter. The only reason they are still rioting is cos they are thugs. 

Plenty of people have SHOWN that and not just to rioters .Unless your blind

Quote: 
Some think their starting some kind of Utopian revolution, the rest are nothing but ANTIFA thugs using a tragedy to mask their evil deeds.

More lunacy

Yeah some nut screaming about how he deserves respect .You want respect stop doing shit that makes us disrespect you .You want me to stop treating you like a thugs stop doing shit that makes you look like thugs .No vilified you but you .

(June 11, 2020 at 8:19 am)brewer Wrote:

(June 11, 2020 at 12:46 am)Agnostico Wrote: I don't think the police should be abolished without being replaced like some people are saying. Do u?

You not having a horse in this race has everything to do with what I said.

What are the liberals doing in your country? Oh, I see, holding police accountable without the necessity of protest/riot.

You should shaduppauface.

I have no idea what u are going on about. All i did was ask a simple question...

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(June 11, 2020 at 8:18 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Interesting that you should play that particular video.

Not once did he address the instances (recorded and put online) of NYPD officers stepping over the line and assaulting peaceful protestors.

Yes, there's no excuse for rioting or looting, and those who participate in these activities should be prosecuted.

But there's also no excuse for cops pepper spraying peaceful protesters, knocking down old men, assaulting people with no provocation, and carrying on like low rent gestapo.

There are plenty of good cops out there, but they, and their reputations, will be tarnished so long as those who do break the rules are not prosecuted or, if they are, get off despite overwhelming evidence.

Most police have good intentions. I don't think all their reputations should be tarnished based on the actions of a few.
The police in questioned have been charged so we'll just have to wait and see now

(June 8, 2020 at 7:12 am)brewer Wrote: If this isn't bipartisan it will create a rally cry for the Trumpsters. I certainly don't want that.

Dems, don't shoot yourselves in the foot,.......... again.

Dems are a lot more likely to shoot themselves in the foot by pandering to the traitor party than standing by priciples of fairness and justice.

Quote:Most police have good intentions. I don't think all their reputations should be tarnished based on the actions of a few.

A worn out excuse that misses the point 

Quote:The police in questioned have been charged so we'll just have to wait and see now

Again not the point

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Quote:I have no idea what u are going on about. All i did was ask a simple question...

Nah he made perfect sense

(June 12, 2020 at 4:42 am)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote:Most police have good intentions. I don't think all their reputations should be tarnished based on the actions of a few.

A worn out excuse that misses the point 

Quote:The police in questioned have been charged so we'll just have to wait and see now

Aain not the point

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Quote:I have no idea what u are going on about. All i did was ask a simple question...

Nah he made perfect sense

Obsessed

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(June 12, 2020 at 5:16 am)Agnostico Wrote:

(June 12, 2020 at 4:42 am)SUNGULA Wrote: A worn out excuse that misses the point 


Aain not the point

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Nah he made perfect sense

Obsessed

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Good advice . Good thing it has nothing to do with me . Regardless of your weird baseless assertion it does .Plus this is my freaking thread and i'll call out your bullshit here if i like .








Agnostico in a nutshell

(June 12, 2020 at 4:30 am)Agnostico Wrote:

(June 11, 2020 at 8:19 am)brewer Wrote: You not having a horse in this race has everything to do with what I said.

What are the liberals doing in your country? Oh, I see, holding police accountable without the necessity of protest/riot.

You should shaduppauface.

I have no idea what u are going on about. All i did was ask a simple question...

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(June 11, 2020 at 8:18 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Interesting that you should play that particular video.

Not once did he address the instances (recorded and put online) of NYPD officers stepping over the line and assaulting peaceful protestors.

Yes, there's no excuse for rioting or looting, and those who participate in these activities should be prosecuted.

But there's also no excuse for cops pepper spraying peaceful protesters, knocking down old men, assaulting people with no provocation, and carrying on like low rent gestapo.

There are plenty of good cops out there, but they, and their reputations, will be tarnished so long as those who do break the rules are not prosecuted or, if they are, get off despite overwhelming evidence.

Most police have good intentions. I don't think all their reputations should be tarnished based on the actions of a few.
The police in questioned have been charged so we'll just have to wait and see now

It isn't about cops.  It's about cop culture. Once you fetishize and militarize the police, they come to see their primary function as keeping ALL people - not just criminals - in order This necessarily evolves into brutality, which fosters the culture in which courts protect cops and cops protect their own.

An excellent example of how cops now view themselves is this (thanks to Brian37 for the link).  The relevant bit starts at 3:36.





When cops use force against people for talking - not rioting, not looting, not blocking traffic, just talking - it's painfully obvious that the current problems are not individual police, but the way the police and the public view law enforcement in general.

Firing, arresting, charging, and (hopefully) convicting bad cops is all well and good as far as it goes, but it isn't going to fix the problem.

Boru

(June 12, 2020 at 4:39 am)Nomad Wrote:

(June 8, 2020 at 7:12 am)brewer Wrote: If this isn't bipartisan it will create a rally cry for the Trumpsters. I certainly don't want that.

Dems, don't shoot yourselves in the foot,.......... again.

Dems are a lot more likely to shoot themselves in the foot by pandering to the traitor party than standing by priciples of fairness and justice.

We'll see. I hear back peddling from "abolish" from the party. But thanks for bringing the hyperbolic speech.

(June 12, 2020 at 6:22 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It isn't about cops.  It's about cop culture. Once you fetishize and militarize the police, they come to see their primary function as keeping ALL people - not just criminals - in order This necessarily evolves into brutality, which fosters the culture in which courts protect cops and cops protect their own.

An excellent example of how cops now view themselves is this (thanks to Brian37 for the link).  The relevant bit starts at 3:36.





When cops use force against people for talking - not rioting, not looting, not blocking traffic, just talking - it's painfully obvious that the current problems are not individual police, but the way the police and the public view law enforcement in general.

Firing, arresting, charging, and (hopefully) convicting bad cops is all well and good as far as it goes, but it isn't going to fix the problem.

Boru

That video didn't work. 
Rodney King, Justine Damond... Ye their cop culture is bad.  They have to change their police training program i guess