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Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
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 (June 15, 2020 at 7:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Maybe it's time the US took a hard, serious look at policing by consent, as opposed to policing by power. At the risk of getting smashed i have to say also that maybe its time for gun reforms in the USA. Maybe start slowly by confiscating all military weapons. Hunting firearms allowed only. Then introduce another stage, anyone with a criminal record will be banned from owning weapons. Step by step, slowly slowly... 
It’s always easier to make an excuse than to accept responsibility.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
June 15, 2020 at 8:22 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2020 at 8:23 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 15, 2020 at 8:20 am)Agnostico Wrote:(June 15, 2020 at 7:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Maybe it's time the US took a hard, serious look at policing by consent, as opposed to policing by power. As far as I'm aware, Mr. Brookes wasn't packing. Only one of the two had a gun, the one that shot the other. Had he been armed it might have gone better for him, but that's a longshot. Or a shorter route to getting shot, depending.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (June 15, 2020 at 8:20 am)Agnostico Wrote:(June 15, 2020 at 7:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Maybe it's time the US took a hard, serious look at policing by consent, as opposed to policing by power. Go start a separate thread. This is not a gun control issue.  (June 15, 2020 at 8:16 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That cop didn't accidentally shoot anyone. What, he tripped, and the other guy landed on his rounds? This angle was tried in our most recent public lynching, too. You think he doesn't look back with regret at firing those shots in the heat of the moment? Profoundly feeling he made a terrible error? Due to training fail and tazr theft factors amongst others? Or are you going to try and argue for some kind of monolithic free will paradigm whereby the shooting officer is 100% to blame? RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
June 15, 2020 at 8:25 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2020 at 8:31 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Oh boo hoo, he has regrets. I wonder if the other guy has any regrets?
Imagine the worst about any given person shot dead by police, the absolute worst. The police officer is an officially sanctioned agent of the state. Yes, he's very much responsible for what happens when he uses the power the state has afforded him. I'm not at all interested in convicting a dead man for his own murder at the hands of the state. You might have caught a clip, recently, of a police training video wherein the trainer insists that anyone who isn't ready to take a life shouldn't be a cop. A better message might be that anyone who isn't willing to be held responsible for their actions shouldn't be a cop. He did it, he fucked up, it wasn't an accident, and it wasn't the dead man's fault. That I even find myself saying this blows my mind.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
I’d like to hear it from him, instead of what others think what he’s thinking and feeling.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter  (June 15, 2020 at 7:57 am)onlinebiker Wrote:(June 15, 2020 at 7:46 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That's just another one of those things that other people have figured out how to do which is beyond the ability of America The Great, or so we're told. If you shoot someone in the back while they're running away, you're a murderer. You can't kill someone to protect hostages if those hostages don't exist yet. If I give you 10 cents change, when I should have given you twenty cents change and you blow my brains out with a gun, then we are both at fault. Technically true, but still a stupid thing to say. I also doubt the guy would have got shot if he hadn't gotten violent. He seemed like a real nice guy. 1.5 seconds to make a decision? Well, if he decided to murder in that short a time then it was probably racist act also. (June 15, 2020 at 8:25 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Oh boo hoo, he has regrets. I wonder if the other guy has any regrets? You really like upgrading everything to muder don'tcha? This clearly is not. Manslaughter? Yup... I would guess so. 
At this point if the cop says he has regret for the shooting he instantly screws up his potential defense.
I am pretty sure that his lawyer and the PD have advised him not to say anything that may be used against him. Whatever it is that he feels, to attempt to keep his own ass out of prison he has to present as though this was legitimate shooting due to fearing for his life. “If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius |
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