(June 21, 2020 at 12:25 pm)brewer Wrote:

(June 21, 2020 at 10:50 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

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You very proud on how "good" you are?  Better than everybody else?



When "help" is motivated by God then it is the Ultimate.  Only in His Love are you able to do it totally Unselfishly.  And only in His Ability our Ability becomes Perfect.  Obviously the Higher the quality of your help the more it benefits both parties.  




Well I did warn you.  As evil makes the user "sick to death".  




No problem to me.  It is you that have to eat the spirit by which you give those words out.  As they don't come from "nowhere".  They come from an evil spirit.  Right out of your soul.  



Some more "lustful" words from an evil spirit of "lust"?

That fact that you can only relate to ideas when presented in concrete ways is quite telling.

So tell us.

Be honest Johan, the oxygen on this planet tickles that feeble little tinker of yours, doesn't it?

(June 21, 2020 at 11:59 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(June 21, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: You never heard Jesus died for the sins of all?

It was never the role of the Jewish messiah to "die for sins". It's not a Biblical notion. Christians cooked it up, when the end-times didn't happen as they predicted. 
Even the disciples said "Wilt Thou O Lord, at this time, restore the kingdom to Israel" .... That's what the role of a messiah was. Your Jebus failed in that.
When the young man in Matthew asked what he had to do to get into heaven, did Jesus say "Oh, just you wait, Im'a gonna be dyin' for y'all "? Nope.
He said "Keep the commandments" ... that's all. The rest your stupid cult cooked up later.

Quote:You can't even define what a "god" is.

Quote:That is true.  But I know more and more as I grow up in His Life as His Kid.   Just as human kids knows more and more about themselves as they grow up.  
You forgot to say what that is. I shall assume you have no clue what a god is. 

Quote:So this dishonest lying fucker, Johan, thinks he can read minds. 

Quote:I never said that.   But you can link us of course.

Actually you did. You said I rejected faith. You were reading my mind, as well as judging me, which your Jebus told you not to do.

Quote:Apparently his deity is so fucking stupid that he wouldn't know if someone who honestly does not believe says, they do. 
Dumb god ya got there, Jo baby. 

Quote:You full of "angry words".  Not good for you.  You just get "sick to death".   As @Abaddon_ire will testify to you.

Nope. Just a logical conclusion from what YOU said. You should stop placing your god up for ridicule.

Quote:It doesn't work like that you know.  God gave you the Life of His Son.   

In your delusional world it doesn't work that way. Grow up.
BTW have you thanked your Jebus for Covid19 today ?

Stop the Babble quotes already. There are no gods, and they gave us nothing. 
We do NOT accept the authority of your Babble quotes. You know that. Why would an idiot keep posting shit from a book he KNOWS we do not accept ? You're a VERY POOR excuse for a preacher.

Quote:That is now your disciplining for having rejected the New Life in Jesus given to you.  By that Life I would have had "worth".   And you would have benefited from it.  Now I am "worthless" to you.   Rejected too.  While I gave myself to you as your Mother.  To give birth to you as our Son, Jesus.  

Bla bla bla. You're not my mother.
Your brand of this rubbish is the usual Fundamentalist crap ... a minority view in religious circles. Your approach is quite scandalous.
There is a book you should buy on Amazon called "How NOT to Share Your Faith".
You appear to be a rank beginner at this. You really ought to go take some classes and learn both how to present ideas and learn about the ideas.
You clearly know next to nothing about world religions and in particular Judaism and Christianity. Your hermeneutic of judgement is not Christian.

What you are, is yet another rank amateur charlatan, pretending to present a religion he knows nothing about, because he GETS OFF on judging other people.
Get help. You need it badly.

Quote:t was never the role of the Jewish messiah to "die for sins". It's not a Biblical notion. Christians cooked it up, when the end-times didn't happen as they predicted. 
Even the disciples said "Wilt Thou O Lord, at this time, restore the kingdom to Israel" .... That's what the role of a messiah was. Your Jebus failed in that.
When the young man in Matthew asked what he had to do to get into heaven, did Jesus say "Oh, just you wait, Im'a gonna be dyin' for y'all "? Nope.
He said "Keep the commandments" ... that's all. The rest your stupid cult cooked up later.

Human has such a lack of knowledge about God and Life in general.  "Dying for sins" are mostly so diluted.  This "dying for sins" are actually taking human life into the grave and raising God - Life again.  We died to sinful and weak human life and were born again in the Life of God Himself.  Becoming True Gods by a birth from Him. 

John 10
 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

  34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 
  35  If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 
  36  Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

This "Jebus" you are talking about is actually "Jesus".  It is who we are now as Children of God.   We are the Son of God and the same as Him because we are born of Him.   And every birth creates exactly the same Life as the Parents.  In this regard "The Kingdom" is perfectly restored with us being the "Kings". 

What you believe in was "cooked up" and not worthy of God's Redemption. 

Quote:Actually you did. You said I rejected faith. You were reading my mind, as well as judging me, which your Jebus told you not to do.

Again a "diluted" cooked up version.   We were asked not to judge "prematurely".   Before we are not given Judgment Ability from God.  Then we Judge. 

Mat 19
28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Quote:Nope. Just a logical conclusion from what YOU said. You should stop placing your god up for ridicule.

A "logical conclusion" is just that.  But your "conclusion was full of "angry words".   An anger spirit.   A devil.   And now you are trying to cover up.   Dishonesty.   And the resulting embarrassment of others seeing you for who and what you are.  From that we were redeemed.  From what you display here.  Sinful human life that is nothing more than an embarrassment to its owner.  We are Perfect now.  We are the same as our Father.  

And that is what is the actual "pain" with you guys.  You missed it.  But it was of your own doing.  And pride will prevent you from changing.  Oops!  You are stuck in sinners life.  Human dead life of Adam.  While God's Life is available.  

You are now where you thought my God was.  Being ridiculed.

Quote:In your delusional world it doesn't work that way. Grow up.
BTW have you thanked your Jebus for Covid19 today ?

Stop the Babble quotes already. There are no gods, and they gave us nothing. 
We do NOT accept the authority of your Babble quotes. You know that. Why would an idiot keep posting shit from a book he KNOWS we do not accept ? You're a VERY POOR excuse for a preacher.

Anger is forcing through again.  

Quote:Bla bla bla. You're not my mother.
Your brand of this rubbish is the usual Fundamentalist crap ... a minority view in religious circles. Your approach is quite scandalous.
There is a book you should buy on Amazon called "How NOT to Share Your Faith".
You appear to be a rank beginner at this. You really ought to go take some classes and learn both how to present ideas and learn about the ideas.
You clearly know next to nothing about world religions and in particular Judaism and Christianity. Your hermeneutic of judgement is not Christian.

What you are, is yet another rank amateur charlatan, pretending to present a religion he knows nothing about, because he GETS OFF on judging other people.
Get help. You need it badly.

Some more anger.   Anger is an evil spirit messing up your life.  Which you can not control.  Making you a slave to it.  That is the weak human life that Jesus redeemed us from.  We rule the spiritual realm.  You are ruled by it. 

We are like our Father.  Kings.  We don't need a "Messiah" anymore.  We are the "Messiah".  

Mat. 5
43  ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 

  44  But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 
  45  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 
  46  For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 
  47  And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 
  48  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. 

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(June 24, 2020 at 6:10 am)no one Wrote: Be honest Johan, the oxygen on this planet tickles that feeble little tinker of yours, doesn't it?

I will be honest.   Seems you think i don't exist?  But I do.  Exactly as I am saying.  And @Abaddon_ire has witnessed about it. And because of his faith in "backbiting" he is on the run now. 

And you think all of this is just "delusion"?  Has the "oxygen tickled" you?

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(June 21, 2020 at 2:39 pm)no one Wrote: If I rent my love hourly, but I'm an otherwise decent human being, will god bend the rules and let me in, or will I have to sneak in through the back door?

Everyone is a "sinner".  And will always be.  Sure.  Many try.  In vain.  They call themselves "pastors" and work so hard to be there.  Have big "churches" for God.  And they miss.  You and nobody can ever make it on the merit of himself.   That is "hypocritical" thinking. 

God Loves us and give us a New Life.  Of Jesus.  As He died for you to make this possible you will have to die too.  To be the Son He desires you to be.  To be the Best that He is giving.  Because only in the Life of Jesus can be the Perfect Relationship with God that He desires.  In Jesus you are Perfect.   Outside of him and in your own "goodness" you are not Perfect. 

And just a waste of time to try to be.  But you know humans.   They are always trying.  And showing off how much they attained already.   So foolish.  Wanting to be honored.  Clergy including.  Running "in front".   And missing it.

In fact.  I accepted the such as you.  On my Facebook page.  Because God does. 

https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/statu...7316523009

Jesus also got problems from the "hypocrites" for the same reason. And these "hypocrites" complained and my account was disabled. But because i was not really doing the wrong i could open another one. But of course i can not accept them anymore there. So i am trying twitter now. Now i am home to you on my Twitter account.  I don't think you and your friends will be a problem there.   Only on Facebook.  Because of their "community standards".

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(June 21, 2020 at 3:42 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(June 21, 2020 at 2:39 pm)no one Wrote: If I rent my love hourly, but I'm an otherwise decent human being, will god bend the rules and let me in, or will I have to sneak in through the back door?

Knocking at the back door before entering is always encouraged. You might get a slap in the face otherwise.

No need to.   God accepts everyone.  Just walk into the Real Door.  It is Jesus.  Even the clergy will have to do the same.  Some think they are "too good" for it.  They will get the "slap".  With or without knocking.

(June 24, 2020 at 1:41 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: A Truth is Lived.  if you are not actually living what you are saying it is a lie.  So you have my Life here in front of you.  Living what i am saying.  This makes it Life.   Not just opinion as is in your case.

Living what you saying (even if you could prove the statement true) gets us nowhere in determining what you believe to be true is is true.

Your opinion that it's true simply does not make it so, no matter how sincere your belief.

And would everyone living what they are saying 'make it life' as you say regardless of what they believed to be true ?

(June 22, 2020 at 3:32 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(June 22, 2020 at 12:43 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote: Please, tell us more. I'd love to hear about that interaction from your point of view.

Ooo, yes, I would like to hear that kettle of crazy too.

Maybe it will be something worthwhile to just contact Hallescomet and we can enjoy it so much more.   But he was not happy when everybody there saw how your "sacrosanct" caught him "off guard".  Because he entered just like you.  And had to run just like you. 

Unfortunately he has to answer for himself because i can not link you.  That account was disabled and i had to start my recent one.    But here is some indication. 

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.ph...23#p640223

And others saw this too.  

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.ph...54#p652854

"bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Crow (sic!): I agree with everything you say...………..heh, heh....but it really doesn't address what I posted, and as stated, you respond with more info about yourself than with Joehand. You have "indeed" made him the boss of you.

Turn this to your benefit. Pick the kernels of use from what I posted, analyze, weigh, evaluate their worth compared to what reactions you have....and strike the balance where you will. Be your own boss....above the slings and arrows from those we marvel can even figure out how to post?

Or not. Its all just words...…………………… WORDS. ////// Right?" 

These were words of "bobbo".  To "Halleyscomet.  Where He saw that I am ruling "Halleyscomet.   And he is trying to help him to get out of the corner you put him into.

So you can tell Halleyscomet that I said he became a slave and had to run because of your "sacrosanct".   And I say that others said the same.   And then he can come and prove the lie.  If he thinks there is one.  But of course you knowing this to be the Truth will obviously run for "excuses again.  I would have done it.  But I am banned.  You and Halleyscomet are not.  So it is easy to just tell him i am speaking about him and he should appear.  Just as i did with you.  

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.ph...40#p640357

And this post also clearly shows why you are on the run.  Because you are caught in the lies of "sacrosanct".  And you knew about it.  yet you came here and was caught all over again.   Trying to make me bad with your lies.   Oops!  What does that make you?

"copy pasta, yum, yum".

What kind of nonsense soap opera has this thread turned into?

(June 24, 2020 at 5:46 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 21, 2020 at 12:25 pm)brewer Wrote: That fact that you can only relate to ideas when presented in concrete ways is quite telling.

So tell us.

It's a sign/symptom of a defective mental condition. There is probably little hope for you.

I am perfectly willing to accept Johan as an authority on evil.

Boru

(June 24, 2020 at 6:23 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:  Human has such a lack of knowledge about God and Life in general.  "Dying for sins" are mostly so diluted.  This "dying for sins" are actually taking human life into the grave and raising God - Life again.  We died to sinful and weak human life and were born again in the Life of God Himself.  Becoming True Gods by a birth from Him. 

Bla bla bla ....Babble quote
What you believe in was "cooked up" and not worthy of God's Redemption. 
Bla bla bla .... religious assertions, unsupported .... bla bla bla preaching shit, bla bla bla

There you go again ... telling me I'm angry ... READING MINDS, again Joe Baby. 
All you can do is make irrelevant ridiculous comments, and do your Babble quotes. 
How tiresome and unconvincing. 
Repeating your *unsupported* assertions is no way to argue. Babble quotes do you NO GOOD here. 
You are a REALLY bad preacher / writer. 
Couldn't your Jebus send someone who knows how to present ideas and concepts professionally and in an educated way ?

(June 24, 2020 at 8:21 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I am perfectly willing to accept Johan as an authority on evil.

Boru

Given his idea of "love" entails stalking his ex-wife, threatening people on a street corner with a club, and psychologically scarring small children I'd say that would be an accurate assessment.

(June 24, 2020 at 1:41 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Actually it is.   It is a deity that goes all the Way in Love.

You have bragged about the ways you've abused your ex-wife, the people in the town that threw you out, children, and how you've stalked people online and in person. You know nothing of love. Your writing depicts the actions of an abusive histrionic narcissist. Any deity that would pick you as whatever you claim to be is a deity not worth worshiping.

(June 24, 2020 at 1:41 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

Quote:That's right folks. Johanabrahams is calling me a "hypocrite" for pointing out he's lying when he claims to be a forum moderator here. He smugly insults me when I call him out for telling an obvious and deliberate lie.

Seems they are agreeing with me?

Yes. We agree that you are a hypocrite and a liar.

(June 24, 2020 at 1:41 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

Quote:Please, tell us more. I'd love to hear about that interaction from your point of view.

Because he was influenced by Abaddon to speak like that.

Your inalienability to accept the responsibility for screwing up your own life is breathtaking. Abaddon is not a bogeyman tainting people against you. Your own words are what engender negative reactions to you. Nobody "Did" any of this to you. You did it all yourself. You are your own worst enemy.

(June 24, 2020 at 1:41 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

Quote:Fuck of johan. Take your insanity elsewhere.

You are on the run.  Not me.  Will not help to try and turn the facts.  it is just dishonesty.   So you have to "evaporate" now.  Or try and get me "banned" to hide your "evaporation" in dishonesty.

There you go again, claiming everyone sick of your BS of "running" from you. Sad. Low energy.