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God's Love
RE: God's Love
(June 27, 2020 at 11:39 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
(June 27, 2020 at 8:55 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Explain why your wife and children had to get a protection order, Johan. Was it because of all your "love and wisdom"?

And before you try and wriggle out of that, you proudly handed us those court documents

You know very well I never "wriggle out" of anything.   I gladly present my case because I know I am correct.  Which the opposition can not do because they know they were siding with evil.  

My wife and kids stayed in Die Herberg where my wife was working as a "matron".   We had a flat there.  And the "harsh and unfair principal" changed her contract by adding a condition that she can be fired if her husband does not accept the disciplinary practices of Die Herberg.  That gave her fear of loosing her job and she chased me away.  And that gave Die Herberg the opening to get a court order against me that obviously also included my wife and kids because they stay there. But this was without the Judge knowing that he is actually also separating me from my family.  I never acted against it as it was also my wife's decision.  And I just allowed for the negative consequences of their actions to play themselves out. 

It will obviously gets worse now that my kids are grown ups and will start asking questions.  And they will learn that I was actaully persecuted for standing up for their rights in a situation where their rights were totally thrown overboard.  In a situation controlled by fear and punishment.  With "bad tempered matrons" and a "harsh and unfair principal".  Forced down on them from the clergy as "orders from God".

Johan, Johan. That is not what that letter is about, stop lying.

That letter proves that an extra clause had to be added to your ex-wifes contract because you kept on interfering in her job to the detriment of both her and the children, you refused to follow the norms, rules and regulations of the kindergarten such that they were compelled to take measures like adding this clause.


Time for you to take responsibility for your actions johan
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RE: God's Love
(June 27, 2020 at 11:05 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
(June 27, 2020 at 8:00 am)brewer Wrote: Education most certainly changes authority. Your country says so. Look up the requirements to be a lawyer, teacher, engineer, doctor, ...........

I'll be fine without a Holy Mother or Jesus. As your health condition continues to degrade I doubt that you will.

Don't you get tired of alienating all of the people around you and being an outcast? Get some help.


Quote:Education most certainly changes authority. Your country says so. Look up the requirements to be a lawyer, teacher, engineer, doctor, 


You would have liked it to be like that.  But unfortunately it doesn't work like that.   When they know you, you are just as ordinary as the next person.  Then it is your character that counts and not your papers.  


Quote:I'll be fine without a Holy Mother or Jesus.


You are welcome to your choice.  


Quote:As your health condition continues to degrade I doubt that you will.

Humans like to judge without evidences.  Acting as a judge but deceiving themselves.  This is "hypocricy".  You are not a Judge yet.  it is reserved for God's Adults.  


Quote:Don't you get tired of alienating all of the people around you and being an outcast?

It is only your delusion.  From @Abaddon_ire .   He fell you know.  So rather look at the facts now. 

Quote:Get some help.

Seems you are the one in need of a "Holy Mother to save you".  You are invaded by @Abaddon_ire evil spirit.


You're ill John. I watched part of the youtube posted. It verified my my conclusions of your mental disorder.

It is nice to see that some people around you are caring for the village idiot. (the idiot is you John, I have to say this because I know that you only understand concrete communications) What do you think will happen to you when they tire of you and your manipulations?

I'm going to predict that you'll become a martyr by your own hand/action, all the while blaming someone else.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: God's Love
(June 27, 2020 at 10:16 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: You think I a missed?  Being His Wife I can not know?

Does your wife know your feelings?

Not really.  You are already chosen by Me and your Father.  But you are of course welcome to reject us.  Bla bla bla ...

One thing's for sure. This fool is bat-shit nuts. 
As far as "bad consequences" go Joe Baby, you can shove your threat up your ass. I assume threats are not permitted here.

(June 27, 2020 at 11:39 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
(June 27, 2020 at 8:55 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Explain why your wife and children had to get a protection order, Johan. Was it because of all your "love and wisdom"?

And before you try and wriggle out of that, you proudly handed us those court documents

You know very well I never "wriggle out" of anything.   I gladly present my case because I know I am correct.  Which the opposition can not do because they know they were siding with evil.  

My wife and kids stayed in Die Herberg where my wife was working as a "matron".   We had a flat there.  And the "harsh and unfair principal" changed her contract by adding a condition that she can be fired if her husband does not accept the disciplinary practices of Die Herberg.  That gave her fear of loosing her job and she chased me away.  And that gave Die Herberg the opening to get a court order against me that obviously also included my wife and kids because they stay there. But this was without the Judge knowing that he is actually also separating me from my family.  I never acted against it as it was also my wife's decision.  And I just allowed for the negative consequences of their actions to play themselves out. 

It will obviously gets worse now that my kids are grown ups and will start asking questions.  And they will learn that I was actaully persecuted for standing up for their rights in a situation where their rights were totally thrown overboard.  In a situation controlled by fear and punishment.  With "bad tempered matrons" and a "harsh and unfair principal".  Forced down on them from the clergy as "orders from God".

So much for the lie that you live in "Family Love".
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: God's Love
(June 27, 2020 at 2:38 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: So much for the lie that you live in "Family Love".

The contract amendment that Johan provided says (my commentary in parentheses)...

Quote:It is an operational requirement that the partner of the Childcare Provider (that would be Johan) supports the norms and rules as expressed in the orderly co-operation agreement between Management and Staff and the Rules and Regulations of the Children's Home (seems a reasonable requirement to me) and in no way creates a barrier to the fulfillment of the Childcare Provider as job requirements and not in the Child Care Worker's post requirement.(basically, rein in your husband) Compliance with these procedures and regulations is an operational requirement.(Fair enough, every place of work has rules and regs)
The Childcare Provider's partner does not support it, and it can lead to the operational grounds. (for dismissal or disciplinary action of some sort. An employment contract is supposed to state exactly what is grounds for that)

I don't know if you have any experience drawing up employee contracts, but I do. We started off with a boilerplate we wrote, which we then amended as necessary for a given role. Different roles have different requirements. E.g. If one had to operate a forklift, one had to have the requisite licences to do so. And attend the refresher courses (we provided those gratis).

In all of those hundreds of contracts, never once was a clause needed that single out some external individual for anything, let alone the employees spouse.

You might be moved to wonder why that might happen.
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RE: God's Love
(June 27, 2020 at 9:08 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Someone did make some of me and one of my Children.  Enjoy.

Excellent! Thank you very much. I'll submit it to the Distorted View podcast ASAP. I hope he features you. Is there a preferred way the host can get in touch with you if he wants to interview you on the show?
“It is a terrible idolatrous mistake when we make God in our image.” — the Rev. Canon Rosie Harper at the Intimate Conviction conference, Jamaica, October 2017.
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RE: God's Love
(June 27, 2020 at 4:18 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote:
(June 27, 2020 at 9:08 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Someone did make some of me and one of my Children.  Enjoy.

Excellent! Thank you very much. I'll submit it to the Distorted View podcast ASAP. I hope he features you. Is there a preferred way the host can get in touch with you if he wants to interview you on the show?

Send it to Dillahunty, that would be hilarious.
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RE: God's Love
(June 27, 2020 at 4:18 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote:
(June 27, 2020 at 9:08 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Someone did make some of me and one of my Children.  Enjoy.

Excellent! Thank you very much. I'll submit it to the Distorted View podcast ASAP. I hope he features you. Is there a preferred way the host can get in touch with you if he wants to interview you on the show?

Manipulating a young man (Ronaldo) like that is just creepy.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: God's Love
(June 27, 2020 at 5:00 pm)brewer Wrote:
(June 27, 2020 at 4:18 pm)flakingnapstich Wrote: Excellent! Thank you very much. I'll submit it to the Distorted View podcast ASAP. I hope he features you. Is there a preferred way the host can get in touch with you if he wants to interview you on the show?

Manipulating a young man (Ronaldo) like that is just creepy.

Look at the date of the contract amendment johan provided. He has been doing this for twenty years plus.
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RE: God's Love
The evil agenda

You met with it.  From my Son, @Abaddon_ire .   Where evil and Good met.  Right on your forum.  

With anger I am fighting everyone with a "cudgel".  Even my wife and kids.  And everybody got a court order against me for doing this.  Even my wife and kids.  Because I was busy with "corporal punishment".  From God.    Ruling with fear and punishment.  And nobody could stop me.  For 20 years i am "beating up" everybody now. 

This of course could only succeed when the evidence is hidden away.  And @Abaddon_ire hid the evidence on the ones actually into "corporal punishment".  He didn't give the facts.  First of the pastor trying to strangle me.  And he knows about it  in public.  And the only evidence in the court orders of "corporal punishment".   Me being slapped.  While I am just turning the other cheek.  

And he didn't even know why my wife "got a court order".   But he presented the reason "as if he knew".  Cleverly twisting his case to make me this evil person with lies.  Because I left Die Herberg on my wife's force after being threatened by the "principal" of loosing her job.    And he did caught many with those lies. Because of the lack of Wisdom of human beings.  


And evil lost the fight.  I am not allowed to call him "my Son".  But he is allowed to call me every evil name there exists.  And then he has the "right" to complain and get me banned.  Sure.  The "mods" does not have Love and Wisdom.  And they are looking for a reason.  And they will just "love" to help out.  Where he can not solve his situation himself and had to run to "mommy" for help.  Just the way of the Kids.  So I had to give him his choice.  Not to call him that anymore.  Like I always do.   Giving all their choice.  I am the most obedient man on the Internet.  But the problem is this.  It does not cancel the situation.  It does not cancel who He is and Who I am Am.  Thus the situation stays.  He is still disciplined.  With his evil agenda.  Even twisting him challenging me an me accepting while he ran away with calling it "stalking"

And he is still disciplined. Now not by His Mommy.  Not experiencing the Love of it.  So not having the Love of the Mother is having the Judgment of God.    It is just his choice not to be part of the Family of God but to stay in his evil ways.  And be Judged.  While it could have been the discipline of a Loving Mother it changes now to the Judgment of God.  He is "evil".  Oops!

Pride is now ruling him.  That is evil too.  And although the evidence clearly show his evil ways he can not admit to it.  And all that is left for him is to "evaporate" or keep running in circles.  Chasing his own tail and "biting" it when he catches up.  Just showing his inability to confess to the Truth.  And suffering the consequences of it.  

And you saw all this in Robertson too.  They could not solve their situation and ran for "fake" court orders.  I didn't even go to court to put my case.  Because it was no problem to me.  The grounds on which they asked for those court orders were not my mistakes but their own.  So they were caught by their own court orders.   And they kept their "corporal punishment" up against me for a while.  While I was just "shouting" at the "devil" every time.  Right in public.  And they could do nothing.   Shame.  They just got "sick to death" of their own "corporal punishment"  They ate it until they are "sick to death".   Because for 20 years now they can not admit to their lies.   And they know they broke up my family. And it is eating away at their souls.  But of course my family allowed it to be broken up.  And this is eating away at their souls too.  And they are suffering likewise because of their own choice.  

But of course there is the other "unthinkable" Way.  Gods Saving Grace.  To be part of God's Family in Love.   

His choice.   And the choice of my wife and kids.  And the choice of everybody in Robertson.  

Rejected up to now.    And thus chosen for "sick to death". 

But healing is available.  So foolish that choice for "death". 

This death also manifests physically.  The "hars and unfair principal".  First his wife died after seven years into the court order.   At approximately 45.  A strange motorcar accident.  On the very date my court orders where stamped.  But prophesied by a Son of mine.  To them.  Two weeks before it happened he was called by God to go and tell them.  And again another week before it happened.  At that second time my Son was imprisoned for "harassment".   While it was a warning from God.  

And then 3 years after that the "principal" resigned and died after another year.  Approximately at 50 years of age.  
 
This Son of mine, Daniel, like to talk about it.  And chat to everyone that wants to phone him.  So with his permission you can get his number from me.  Because he has no internet existence.  I will give it to @Abaddon_ire  in a PM.  Because I don't know if the "bosses" will allow it right here.   Up to them to tell me.
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