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Evolutionary explanation of religion
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Evolutionary explanation of religion
November 23, 2020 at 3:14 pm (This post was last modified: November 23, 2020 at 3:19 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
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RE: Evolutionary explanation of religion
November 23, 2020 at 3:14 pm (This post was last modified: November 23, 2020 at 3:15 pm by Duty.)
In before the delete : D
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RE: Evolutionary explanation of religion
November 23, 2020 at 3:20 pm
(November 23, 2020 at 3:14 pm)Lawz Wrote: In before the delete : D

Well done you. Smile

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RE: Evolutionary explanation of religion
November 23, 2020 at 3:58 pm
Evolutionary need for written language?
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RE: Evolutionary explanation of religion
November 23, 2020 at 6:55 pm
Not religion per se but belief in god has been theorized (and supported by some research) as having evolutionary basis. It basically has been theorized as a (useful) byproduct of our brain's ability to see patterns in nature, the ability to see something from others' point of view (theory of mind or empathy––giving rise to seeing intent in natural phenomenon), and passing on knowledge to next generations.
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RE: Evolutionary explanation of religion
November 23, 2020 at 7:34 pm
(November 23, 2020 at 6:55 pm)Apollo Wrote: Not religion per se but belief in god has been theorized (and supported by some research) as having evolutionary basis.  It basically has been theorized as a (useful) byproduct of our brain's ability to see patterns in nature, the ability to see something from others' point of view (theory of mind or empathy––giving rise to seeing intent in natural phenomenon), and passing on knowledge to next generations.

I suspect that’s largely the case. It wouldn’t take much for Oog to notice that it generally got cloudy before a thunderstorm, and - for him - a reasonable explanation would have been that Great Cloud Pusher was angry about something.

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RE: Evolutionary explanation of religion
November 23, 2020 at 8:16 pm (This post was last modified: November 23, 2020 at 8:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Probably not. We were religious and had rituals and ritual beliefs for many (many many many many many) thousands of years before anyone came up with the silly man in the sky shit - which would have seemed even sillier to people with those strong religious beliefs. A bit like they're all convinced to this very day that the rest of them sound silly.

Theism and theistic religion is very uniquely and very distinctly a product of the late neolithic and early bronze related to the organization of nascent societies with needs that exceed (and evade) the tight and tacitly accepted bonds and rules of the extended family unit.

TDR version is that it would have sounded ridiculous that a man ran shit in the sky when men didn't run shit on the ground yet. It's only after that point that we see any indication of such beliefs.
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RE: Evolutionary explanation of religion
November 23, 2020 at 9:33 pm
Thulsa Doom had it right!
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RE: Evolutionary explanation of religion
November 23, 2020 at 9:54 pm
(November 23, 2020 at 8:16 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Probably not. We were religious and had rituals and ritual beliefs for many (many many many many many) thousands of years before anyone came up with the silly man in the sky shit - which would have seemed even sillier to people with those strong religious beliefs. A bit like they're all convinced to this very day that the rest of them sound silly.

Theism and theistic religion is very uniquely and very distinctly a product of the late neolithic and early bronze related to the organization of nascent societies with needs that exceed (and evade) the tight and tacitly accepted bonds and rules of the extended family unit.

TDR version is that it would have sounded ridiculous that a man ran shit in the sky when men didn't run shit on the ground yet. It's only after that point that we see any indication of such beliefs.

The silly man in the sky is a pretty recent phenomenon— ~6 thousands years or so— Polytheism is older than monotheism.

The evolutionary concept of god is more about some supernatural power with intent. This goes back to early onset of cognitive revolution some 70 thousands years ago.

Rituals in itself don’t have to be religious in nature—they are a way to accomplish various group/tribal goals like signal conformance and trust and transmission of knowledge from generation to another. The religious rituals most probably started through concept of afterlife where early homo sapiens didn’t quite grasp death and thought of survival of the living beings once body is dead.
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RE: Evolutionary explanation of religion
November 24, 2020 at 12:18 pm
Everything has an evolutionary basis. The question is how to meaningfully separate out explanations that highlight salient points. Saying it evolved can be applied to anything human.
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